Could this be a transcription error on a birth certificate?

[CaroleW]

What surname was Rose registered under as I cannot see any birth under any surname for a Rose Tatiana in the Dec qtr 1876 or March qtr 1877

Just searching Rose Tatiana brings no results

[Braindead]

In the indexes, Rosa Tatiana is found in 1877 Q1 as Rosa Tatiana B Broadwood, Marylebone 1a 572.
The initial B is Bartholomei.

[bethanyyd96]

Familysearch have this tree which says mother is Mary Ann Short. She first married Charles Hamilton Broadwood in 1854.

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/KHXQ-72Y

Bethany


EDIT: However there are no sources for this tree

[Braindead]

Thanks for the reply, Bethany.
The Charles Hamilton Broadwood connection you mention is a strong possibility but the biggest problem I have is that the photo attached to Mary Ann Short doesn't match the photo I have of Frances Mary.
I have written to the person who put the photo onto Familysearch to ask how they know their photo is Mary Ann Short and am awaiting their reply.
My photo has been annotated as Frances Mary by Rose Tatiana's daughter in law along with the aside that one of Rose Tatiana's daughters (also called Tatiana!) looks like her grandma. That's borne out by several photos I have of "young" Tatiana.
It's incredibly confusing!

[bethanyyd96]

It looks like the only source to suggest Frances Mary is Mary Ann Short is the 1854 marriage to Charles Hamilton Broadwood. Even the 1861 census has her down as another name, Mary Louisa. She had gone by several different names, including Louisa Beresford, as noted on a newspaper clipping from The Times in 1865.

It's likely she could've changed her name to Frances at some point too.


Bethany

[heywood]

There is a divorce record in 1863 for Charles Hamilton Broadwood - the adultery of his wife with the Duke of St Albans.
I can’t see Mary in 1871.
She is not with the duke.

[Braindead]

Thanks for the replies Bethany.
I have written a short biography of Michel Bqrtholomei and have included what I know about Frances Mary in it. It's mostly in italics as I can't prove it. It's a convenient fit, but proof is lacking.
I don't know what your thoughts are on the photo in my bio of Frances Mary, but I don't think it matches the photo on familysearch.
Thanks for your contributions.

[bethanyyd96]

I don't know what your thoughts are on the photo in my bio of Frances Mary, but I don't think it matches the photo on familysearch.

I agree - her face looks a lot rounder than the photo on familysearch. Hopefully the owner contacts you with details.

[Braindead]

For comparison, we have Frances Mary on the right and her grandaughter on the left.