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Re: Benjamin Kleinman
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 25 May 23 23:16 BST (UK) »
You canít search Berlin births after 1908 on Ancestry but you can search for Marriages until 1936 and they are indexed.

Using Ancestry.com, I found 1 result:
 
Marriage - March 14th, 1918
Aron KLEINMANN & Emma HENSELEIT
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sbi/

Here is the Information:

Aron Kleinmann was born on March 13th, 1894. His mother was Malka Kleinmann (maiden surname not mentioned).

Emma Henseleit was born on February 1st, 1896. Her father was Friedrich Wilhelm Henseleit & mother was Philippine Henseleit (maiden surname not mentioned).

It seems that Aron's father was deceased at the time of Marriage.

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Re: Benjamin Kleinman
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 25 May 23 23:21 BST (UK) »
Would suggest you start by downloading his wife's will to see what mention there is of the daughters - particularly their married names

Because of the surname spelling - consider buying his marriage cert to confirm his fathers name was Aaron.   What was his mothers name & maiden name from the birth cert?

Use any info found to see if the daughters are still alive or if they had any children.  If you can make contact with them it may save a lot of hassle with German documents.  Both daughters were adults when Benjamin died so should have some info
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Re: Benjamin Kleinman
« Reply #20 on: Friday 26 May 23 00:33 BST (UK) »
This is a Birth record for Elias (Aronís younger brother) in 1895:

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sbj/

It lists his father as Szoja Kleinmann & Mother as Malka (as mentioned before and again no maiden name).

Also, there are no records of Kleinmann before 1895, so I suspect that they immigrated at that time from Poland or some Jewish Country.

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Re: Benjamin Kleinman
« Reply #21 on: Friday 26 May 23 00:46 BST (UK) »
Here is Emma Henseleit Birth Record:

Birth - Emma Lina Mathilde Henseleit February 1st, 1896
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sbm/

Here is the Marriage of her parents:

Marriage - Friedrich Wilhelm HENSELEIT & Philippine BOLLHEIMER January 14th, 1894
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sbn/

Here is her Motherís Death:

Death - Philippine BOLLHEIMER October 25th, 1918
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sbo/

And her Fatherís Death:

Death - Frederich HENSELEIT June 15th, 1905
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sbp/

I was able to find a Birth of Friedrich Wilhelm Henseleit but I am unsure of the date, which is 1842 but the parents match:

Birth - Wilhelm Frederich HENSELEIT January 30th, 1842 (Baptized Date)
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sbq/


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Re: Benjamin Kleinman
« Reply #22 on: Friday 26 May 23 03:34 BST (UK) »
I found a Schaje (Szaja) Kleinmann married to Malka Jonas on August 16th, 1892 in Dombrowa, Poland (JewishGen).

Schajeís parents were Eliasz Kleinmann & Basza (No Maiden name).

Malkaís parents were Kalman Jonas & Keila Itla.

There is a Family Tree where Malka is mentioned in:

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sbu/

From the Family Tree, This is what I got:

Malka Jonas Married Szaja Kleinmann on August 16th, 1892.

Szaja was born in January of 1853 in Dombrowa.

Malka was born on February 1st, 1864 & died on January 8th, 1943 in Theresienstadt.

Parents: Kalman JONAS & Kayla Jutla PELIKAN

It seems that Malka died in Theresienstadt in a Prison.

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https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/theresienstadt

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Re: Benjamin Kleinman
« Reply #23 on: Friday 26 May 23 04:04 BST (UK) »
Kalman JONAS & Kayla Jutla PELIKAN Married sometime.

Kalman Jonas was born on 1825 and died December 16th, 1882.

Kalman Jonas parents:

Herszl Salomon JONAS & Malka FREI? 

Kayla Jutla Pelikan parents:

Elkan PELIKAN & Jachet SCHERER   

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Re: Benjamin Kleinman
« Reply #24 on: Friday 26 May 23 06:31 BST (UK) »

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Re: Benjamin Kleinman
« Reply #25 on: Friday 26 May 23 07:47 BST (UK) »
May have nothing at all to do with this particular post but the 2 surnames Kleinman & Klajman crop up together.Marriages Sep 1929   Marylebone

Klajman    Gitla    Klajman    Marylebone        1a    1807
Klajman    Gitla    Kleiman    Marylebone    1a   1807   
Klajman    Tovia    Klajman    Marylebone    1a   1807    
Klajman    Tovia    Kleinman    Marylebone    1a   1807    

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Re: Benjamin Kleinman
« Reply #26 on: Friday 26 May 23 08:27 BST (UK) »
Had a quick look here:

https://www.jewishgen.org/

But couldn't see anything relevant. It's free to sign up to the site.
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