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Re: William Milne 1848 - 1897
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 07 June 23 20:41 BST (UK) »
Huntly Express 16-10-1897:

THE LATE MR WM. MILNE, OVERHALL HOME
FARM. The largely attended funeral took place last
week to Insch churchyard of the late Mr Wm Milne,
Home Farm, Overhall, Premnay. His ninister Rev.
John Stewart, Established Church, Premnay,
conducted the service. The chief mourners were his
brother-in-law Mr Francis Stephen, bank agent,
Alford, and other relatives. Although Mr Milne
took no leading part in public business, he was for
long a prominent breeder and exhibitor of horses in
the district. At Kennethmont and Insch shows he
yearly secured foremost and sometimes special
honours for his Clydesdale animals, and occasionally
carried his triumphs to Inverurie and Aberdeen. He
was an excellent judge of horses, and his services in
that capacity were often valued in various showyards.
He succumbed to about three weeks' illness, and his
death has come as a surprise to many in the district
around by whom he is deeply regretted. Many years
ago he succeeded his father in the farm of Newton of
Ardoyne, which he vacated latterly for the home farm
of Overhall, Premnay. He married Miss Cowie,
daughter of the late Mr Peter Cowie, farmer, Over-
hall. Mr Milne is survived by his wife and a young
family.


Although the above article says he was buried at Insch, there is no gravestone there with his name. There is, however, a gravestone in Premnay Kirkyard with the following people mentioned on it:

William Milne d. 3-10-1898
Andrew Walker Milne d. 8-10-1907
Peter Cowie Milne d. 14-11-1908
Jane Elsie Cowie d. 31-7-1924
James Dunbar Milne 15-1-1925

[From the ANESFHS index]

This is obviously the correct family. The fact that the stone has the day and year of William Milne's death a day and a year out suggests that the stone was not erected at the time of his death, but perhaps when his wife died in 1924 and they had made a mistake in what they told the mason. If the report in the Huntly Express is correct, William Milne was buried at Insch and the rest of his family at Premnay. It is not unusual to have the names of people who are buried elsewhere recorded on a gravestone.

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Re: William Milne 1848 - 1897
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 08 June 23 04:32 BST (UK) »
Hello Maddys52,
Your information seems to match with mine. I'd love for you to send me the information you have on William Milne, re Barn Fire and assault charges. I hope this is correct way to reply on Rootschat and it gets to you. I'm not in Scotland but have searched for William's grave site with no results, there are soo many cemetries in Scotland.

thanking you
Christine

Christine, I'm happy to send you the articles, though I think from Rosie's find of the 1901 census that this is perhaps not the right family, especially as you mention children Robert, Thomas and Kate.

If you make one more post here you can access the personal message system where I can send you the articles. Simply replying to this thread will do it.  :D

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Re: William Milne 1848 - 1897
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 08 June 23 04:55 BST (UK) »
Hello GR2
Thankyou so much for this information, it is filling in a few gaps for me. and the fact that he may be buried in Insch with no headstone explains why i couldn't find him in that graveyard. I did find a William Milne and Jane Cowie in the Premnay Graveyard but the other names on the headstone confused me.
I have him also married to Margaret Brandy Aberdien in my tree with his children Robert, Thomas and Kate Ann.
Would it be possible to find William's parents grave Thomas Milne 1800-1872 from Oyne, Aberdeeshire and Janet ( Jessie ) Henderson 1805-1889 ?
You have been so helpful, i live in Australia and am planning a holiday in the Uk and Scotland and want to visit their graves.

Kind regards

Christine

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Re: William Milne 1848 - 1897
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 08 June 23 05:37 BST (UK) »
Hello Maddys52,
So far i'm loving this Rootschat, the people are so helpful.
I think William Milne did have 2 wives and a separate lot of children to a Jane Elphet Cowie, as i've seen a headstone in Premnay Graveyard.

Kind regards

Christine


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Re: William Milne 1848 - 1897
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 08 June 23 07:24 BST (UK) »
I'll send you a pm  :D

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Re: William Milne 1848 - 1897
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 08 June 23 08:59 BST (UK) »
Christine I have just viewed the birth certificate for Kate Ann Milne the one you mentioned was in touch with your grandmother
Kate Ann Milne born 23February 1899 at Barnyards Lonmay
Father William Milne occupation gardener
Mother Margaret Milne maiden name Brandie
Their marriage date was  2 February 1884 Dyce
Father William Milne registered the birth so 2 different Families

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Re: William Milne 1848 - 1897
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 08 June 23 09:55 BST (UK) »
This looks a possibility for the family on the 1911 census Rothes Moray
William Milne age 76
Margaret Milne 47
Kate Milne 12
I'm assuming Robert Milne is your relation he was in Australia 1907

There is a Burial for Thomas Milne died 1978 Rothes Moray
He was a Burgh Surveyer of Rothes he is buried with his Mother
Margaret Brandy Aberdein Milne 1931 also his wife Georgina Rae Milne 1958
Rothes Old Churchyard on findagrave

Rosie

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Re: William Milne 1848 - 1897
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 08 June 23 22:02 BST (UK) »
Christine, I think there is confusion here...

There looks to be two different families as Rosie and Maddy have shown above. One William, son of Thomas and Jessie, was a farmer like his father Thomas. He married Jane Elsie Cowie and died as GR2 has confirmed in 1897.

The other William married Margaret Brandie Aberdien in 1884 as Rosie confirmed on daughter Kate's birth reg. This marriage reg would let you confirm his parents' details and also wife Margaret's.

Rosie has posted the 1911 details which shows William, father of Kate, still alive. You also now have from Rosie the burial details for son Thomas, wife, and his mother Margaret. So, William died after 1911.

This looks to be the family you are interested in...or is it not?

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Re: William Milne 1848 - 1897
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 08 June 23 22:04 BST (UK) »
Are these the death details in WW1 for eldest son Robert? www.findagrave.com/memorial/56377435/robert-milne

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