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Pauper in marriage record, 1790 - Suffolk. Wondering why?
« on: Sunday 11 June 23 09:02 BST (UK) »
I have found two Suffolk people who are likely to be my ancestors.

I have seen a transcribed record on FreeReg.

They married in Stoke-by-Nayland, Suffolk in 1790. (The bride was from that parish; the groom from Newton in Suffolk.)

The record notes that the groom was a 'pauper.'

I understand the term 'pauper', but I'm curious as to why this fact was noted on a marriage record. Was this common practice at that time? I have relatives labelled as paupers in other records (eg censuses) but not in marriage records.

Does it mean the groom was a resident in the workhouse? (I think that both Newton and Stoke-by-Nayland had workhouses at that time.)

Curious to know!


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Re: Pauper in marriage record, 1790 - Suffolk. Wondering why?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 June 23 09:38 BST (UK) »
I am just speculating here, but I’m not sure that you can necessarily assume because he was a pauper that he was a resident of a workhouse. I’m not familiar with Stoke by Nayland but if it was a rural area with low population, did it even have a workhouse in the area in 1790? It’s possible that a pauper could be put up by a family member or friend.

Do his children’s baptisms give any indication of an occupation? When he married he may have temporarily been out of work and claiming poor relief.

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Re: Pauper in marriage record, 1790 - Suffolk. Wondering why?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 June 23 09:49 BST (UK) »
This couple?
Marriage Licence Bond: William Gardiner of Newton and Mary Boutell of Stoke by Nayland
https://www.suffolkarchives.co.uk/collections/getrecord/GB174_E14_8_1_27_118

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Re: Pauper in marriage record, 1790 - Suffolk. Wondering why?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 June 23 09:53 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your reply, Ruskie.

I did see a document noting that both Stoke-by-Nayland and Newton had workhouses (with not many residents) in 1776.

I was more curious about recording it in a marriage register. Maybe this was really, really common, but I just haven't come across it in my own family research so far!

(I don't have a baptism record yet for my relative's son, although everyone seems to have been an Agricultural Labourer.  ;D)


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Re: Pauper in marriage record, 1790 - Suffolk. Wondering why?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 June 23 10:01 BST (UK) »
This couple?
Marriage Licence Bond: William Gardiner of Newton and Mary Boutell of Stoke by Nayland
https://www.suffolkarchives.co.uk/collections/getrecord/GB174_E14_8_1_27_118

Yes, that is them - thankyou! That is very useful. I have done a lot of digging for later generations of this branch but I am still exploring the older people.

From FreeReg I saw that William Gardiner, of Newton in Suffolk Parish, married Mary Bouttell, of Stoke-by-Nayland. Marriage by licence. Groom was a Pauper. Bride and Groom signed X. Witnesses: Martin Hyam and John Lewes.

The information you've posted for me tells Mary's father was Matthew, which is good to know. Thank you again. ;)

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Re: Pauper in marriage record, 1790 - Suffolk. Wondering why?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 11 June 23 10:15 BST (UK) »
I think it is likely the marriage is recorded with "pauper" to avoid paying the Stamp Duty which began 1783 and was repealed in 1794.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stamp_Duties_Act_1783

The groom may well have been a pauper, and not necessarily resident in a workhouse, though a sympathetic clergyman could also record him as such to avoid the tax.

There are a few threads on here about the Stamp Duty Act 1783.

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Re: Pauper in marriage record, 1790 - Suffolk. Wondering why?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 11 June 23 10:38 BST (UK) »
I think Maddys52 has given the most likely reason. He could have been receiving parish relief, but a Workhouse resident would be unlikely to marry as men and women were kept apart.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Pauper in marriage record, 1790 - Suffolk. Wondering why?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 11 June 23 11:15 BST (UK) »
Thank you Maddys52 and Jebber for suggesting Stamp Duty. I wasn't aware of that tax, for that purpose. I will read up about it, with interest.

Many thanks again. ;)

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Re: Pauper in marriage record, 1790 - Suffolk. Wondering why?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 11 June 23 23:28 BST (UK) »
Marriage by licence? Isn’t there a fee involved with that?

It’s often the wealthy who marry by licence, (or a couple who needs a quicky ceremony.)  ;)

Added: wonder if the licence/bond / allegation might be available …..