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Brickwall Pollie Frances Kemsley nee Austen
« on: Friday 16 June 23 22:25 BST (UK) »
Hello All  :)

I'm new to RootsChat (how did I not know about this forum?) but not new to genealogy. I've been researching my family tree for nearly 12 years. I have, however, hit a massive brick wall. Not only have I hit it, but I've reversed up and kept hitting it, for 12 years.

My 2nd Great-Grandmother, Pollie, is proving to be a reluctant branch of my tree. It's the only branch that's incomplete ::)

I'm not sure what info I should post on here, to see if anyone has any ideas on where to find her.

I have everything available from her marriage in 1883 to her death in 1950.

Prior to this date - nothing. Nada. Zilch.

Main details I'd be very happy to have is her birth, her parents (only have a deceased fathers name) and anything prior to 1883. Birth location has always been Wye, Kent.

Name; Pollie France Kemsley nee Austen 1859 - 1950

Variations on first name used in searching; Polly, Pollie, Molly, Dolly, Dollie, Pol* as a wildcard, Follie in case the P looks like an F, Elizabeth, Mary, and a few more besides.

I’ve used both Austen and Austin, and Aus*, Dusten/Dustin, Ousten/Oustin again in case the letters are illegible.

I can only guess at this point that either she was never registered at birth for some reason or was never called Pollie in the first place.

I have her fathers name, Edward with both variations on surname of Austen and Austin - he's down as deceased - on the marriage details in 1883.

Massive brick wall and my head hurts from hitting it  ;D

Sorry for the long first post.

And thanks in advance for any help.  ;D

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Re: Brickwall Pollie Frances Kemsley nee Austen
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 June 23 03:42 BST (UK) »

Hi
Please would you post all the information from the marriage certificate.

Also the death certificate.

Please include everything.

Sue
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Re: Brickwall Pollie Frances Kemsley nee Austen
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 June 23 05:24 BST (UK) »
Hello frootloop50 and welcome to RootsChat.

You probably have this already, but to help others, she has her date of birth on the 1939 register as 1 May 1859, though her age in the censuses and death index varies between c1859 and 1861.

It is possible she was registered under her mother's name (if her parents were not married). There is an un-named female registered Jun qtr 1859 in East Ashford with family name TAYLOR, no mother's maiden name. And another with family name KNOCK.  A possibility? Will do some more searching ...

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Re: Brickwall Pollie Frances Kemsley nee Austen
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 June 23 05:55 BST (UK) »

Hi
Please would you post all the information from the marriage certificate.



It is here Sue.  Takes a while to load.  Then scroll down to the 24th image, (page 44 in the register)
https://cityark.medway.gov.uk/wwwopacx/wwwopac.ashx?command=getcontent&server=files&value=P153-01-35(1).pdf


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Re: Brickwall Pollie Frances Kemsley nee Austen
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 June 23 06:22 BST (UK) »
June 3 1860
Mary Jane Austen daughter of Maria Austen, single woman. Baptised at Wye.

What happened to her?

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Re: Brickwall Pollie Frances Kemsley nee Austen
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 June 23 06:33 BST (UK) »
remember - not all trees are correct - is this your tree ??

https://gw.geneanet.org/julietrusson?n=austen&oc=&p=pollie+frances
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Brickwall Pollie Frances Kemsley nee Austen
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 June 23 07:07 BST (UK) »
June 3 1860
Mary Jane Austen daughter of Maria Austen, single woman. Baptised at Wye.

What happened to her?

Could this be Mary Jane with added intial F in 1881??

Mary J F Austen 21 Servant at Homestall Farm Faversham Kent working for Richarf Neame and family

Kay

Added - Possiible family in 1861 although Maria is listed as a Widow - all born Wye and living Brabourne, Kent

Maria Austin  30 Widow Former Ag Lab's wife
James Austin  5
Mary J Austin    1

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Re: Brickwall Pollie Frances Kemsley nee Austen
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 June 23 07:38 BST (UK) »
I thought so, and then nothing. So a potential?

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Re: Brickwall Pollie Frances Kemsley nee Austen
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 17 June 23 07:55 BST (UK) »
Maria Austen may be Mary Lousia Manuel who married James Austin in 1854 and he died early 1860.  She appears to have had a later son Frederick about 1864 in Wye but I can't see them in 1871 :-\

Kay

Added - I think Polly was a nickname for Mary https://mom.com/baby-names/girl/23990/Polly