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Ancestor Brickwall - Albert Clayton
« on: Monday 10 July 23 21:39 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I'm looking for some help breaking through a brick wall I have come up against with my 2nd great-grandfather Albert Clayton.

The only census that I can verify is for the correct Albert Clayton is the 1901 census. On this his birth place is recorded as Bradford, Yorkshire and his age puts his birth date around 1869.

He married Ada Sophia Rawlings on 13 April 1895 in Leeds in a Registry Office. I have a copy of their marriage certificate which lists his father as 'Edward Clayton (deceased)'. His father's occupation was a 'Foundry Labourer'. Albert was living on Oak Street in Leeds at the time of his marriage.

Albert and Ada had seven children although the first two (my great-grandfather and his sister) were born to Ada outside of marriage and registered under her name. Their father is unknown although both later have the surname Clayton and both have Albert Clayton listed as 'father' on their marriage certificates.

Albert died on 06 Sept 1904 in Leeds at the age of 35. His marriage certificate lists his occupation as butcher, as do the birth and marriage certificates of his children. His death certificate also lists his occupation as butcher (journeyman) so it appears this was his occupation throughout his life.

Despite the above information, I have been unable to find any definitive information for Albert from before 1895 including a birth record.  I found a possible birth index for an Albert Clayton born 1869 in Bradford, but the father's name on the birth certificate did not match. There is another possible birth index with a birth year of 1867 but I'm reluctant to keep ordering birth certificates in the blind hope of finding the right one unless there are only a couple of possibilities!

The main difficulty seems to lie with another Albert Clayton (Albert Edward Clayton) born around the same time but in Huddersfield. Other people researching the same line have this Albert Edward Clayton as having married Ada Sophia Rawlings but I have cross referenced census records and marriage index/certificates for both and have concluded they cannot be the same person. I also have information from my grandfather which tells me that our Albert Clayton did not have a middle name.

I have a possible 1881 and 1891 census for an Albert Clayton (born in Bradford around the right time) which suggest he was a boarder and then a lodger from the age of 12. If this is the Albert I'm searching for, I'm beginning to think I may never get any further!

Can anybody with more experience advise me where to look or how to progress my search please?

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Re: Ancestor Brickwall - Albert Clayton
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 July 23 21:46 BST (UK) »
Albert's Birth Record most likely:
- Kiernan from County Meath
- Kelly from County Kildare
- Donnelly from County Tyrone
- McKenna from County Tyrone/Moghanan

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Re: Ancestor Brickwall - Albert Clayton
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 July 23 21:47 BST (UK) »
Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Ancestor Brickwall - Albert Clayton
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 July 23 23:01 BST (UK) »
Do you have the names of the witnesses on his marriage?
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Re: Ancestor Brickwall - Albert Clayton
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 July 23 23:05 BST (UK) »
Yes, the witnesses were George Russell and Xantippe Russell.

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Re: Ancestor Brickwall - Albert Clayton
« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 July 23 23:22 BST (UK) »
Yes, the witnesses were George Russell and Xantippe Russell.

Thanks. They are in 1901 and married 1895 but no obvious links to Albert. :-\
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Re: Ancestor Brickwall - Albert Clayton
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 11 July 23 08:26 BST (UK) »
His marriage certificate lists his occupation as butcher, as do the birth and marriage certificates of his children. His death certificate also lists his occupation as butcher (journeyman) so it appears this was his occupation throughout his life.

He's a labourer in 1901.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PD-L5L

I have a possible 1881 and 1891 census for an Albert Clayton (born in Bradford around the right time) which suggest he was a boarder and then a lodger from the age of 12.

In Lincolnshire in 1891. Foundry labourer
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WT8W-DN2

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Re: Ancestor Brickwall - Albert Clayton
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 July 23 09:59 BST (UK) »
Yes, the witnesses were George Russell and Xantippe Russell.

Thanks. They are in 1901 and married 1895 but no obvious links to Albert. :-\

Thank you for looking into this. I hadn't been able to find a link either but was hoping I had missed something due to inexperience!

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Re: Ancestor Brickwall - Albert Clayton
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 July 23 10:12 BST (UK) »
His marriage certificate lists his occupation as butcher, as do the birth and marriage certificates of his children. His death certificate also lists his occupation as butcher (journeyman) so it appears this was his occupation throughout his life.

He's a labourer in 1901.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PD-L5L

I have a possible 1881 and 1891 census for an Albert Clayton (born in Bradford around the right time) which suggest he was a boarder and then a lodger from the age of 12.

In Lincolnshire in 1891. Foundry labourer
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WT8W-DN2

Thank you for this. I did question myself after posting as I know the 1901 census is definitely the right Albert but he is listed as a labourer. Other descendants of Albert I have spoken to know little about him but all seemed to suggest he was a butcher. Given he was a journeyman butcher, would he have done other jobs as and when he needed to?

Do you think the 1891 census you have linked to is the right one for Albert? It's the same one I have and seems to fit. It would also make sense he was a foundry labourer as its the job his father had?