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Offline Llanfihangel

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Farm in 1634 Wales
« on: Wednesday 12 July 23 01:59 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I would like to have your interpretations of the name of this Farm in Merthyr Cynog Wales ientifiied in the Will of David Thomas.

The first two words are "Tir y" but I am a loss regarding the third word..

Please help!

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Re: Farm in 1634 Wales
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 July 23 03:35 BST (UK) »
The last part looks like ynCelyn.  :-\ There is a LLwyn-y-celyn near Methyr Cynog. Not really sure about this, will be interested to see what others say.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/101605094#zoom=5&lat=2948&lon=4877&layers=BT

https://www.landmarktrust.org.uk/search-and-book/historic-llwyn-celyn/history-of-llwyn-celyn/

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Re: Farm in 1634 Wales
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 July 23 08:20 BST (UK) »
Looks like "Tir brynkelyn" to me.

There appears to be a modern Fferm Bryn Celyn near Mold and a place called Bryn Celyn in LLanddarog in Carmarthenshire.

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Re: Farm in 1634 Wales
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 July 23 09:30 BST (UK) »
Thank you DRH123 and maddys52

I searched for Byn Celyn in the area of Bailey Brith Merthyr Cynog, and found a field called Bryn Celyn. That is in line with the bequest of Tir BrynCelyn in 1634 by David Thomas of Bailey Brith in his Will of 1634

(The will bequeathed Tir Bryncelyn, a dwelling of some sort. But that was in 1634, and the Welsh tithe maps are 1840-ish. That's 200 years later. There seems to be a small plot on the path leading to Bailey Brith, and I'll settle for that's where Tir BrynCelyn used to stand. I checked on Google Earth but although there is a clearing there is no sign of ruined cottage. I have attached the Tithe map, and will close with gratitude)

Thanks again to all of you!

Llanfi  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Pugh, Powell, Williams, Maddox, Prosser