Up the Balkans maybe with MATHEITBEL??

[bellowsbrick49]

Some years ago my DNA results on "My Heritage" came up with me being 9.2% Balkan . The rest of it was pretty "UK standard" or thereabouts. I had no idea of the time period this  Balkan bit related to . A few days ago I was rung up by a "My Heritage" salesman trying to sign me up . I declined on the grounds that their DNA description had not helped me much : my father's side of the tree was comparatively small and had lots of "brick walls" . But this was a call to action and I pushed myself  to get an Ancestry DNA kit so as to get a different "descriptive take" on it . I have now got 3 months membership but maybe only 2 month by the time the analysis is done.  One brick wall is for
 a lady called MATHEITBEL who married  (I think) JOHN CALLENDAR TAYNTON b1797 London  my GGG Grandfather. There are two entries for his wife MATHEITBEL  and John who was a SMITH by occupation and the two children mentioned are CHARLES and ALFRED. But is MATHEITBEL a Balkan name ? I have no idea but hopefully the "Ancestry UK" membership will throw up some answers. It is clearly written twice and does not appear to look like a transcription error.

[ShaunJ]

There were quite a few ladies named Mehetabel or Mehitabel in England. It's a biblical name.

"Mehetabel ("מהיטבאל") ("Whom God benefits" or "God causes good") was the wife of Hadad, one of the kings of Edom (Genesis 36:39)"

Charles and Alfred were baptised at the same time so the eccentric spelling could be a one-off.

[LizzieL]

I'd be a bit sceptical about MH ethnicity results, they say I have 16 % Eastern european, on Ancestry I have none, not even close. Ancestry lines up pretty well with my known lines, even picking up most of my ancestors from southern England, Hants, Dorset, Sussex, Berkshire.
Biblical names seemed to very popular in the early -mid 1800s, I have one chap who named his three daughters after the daughters of Job:- Jemima, Kezia and Kerenhappuch. The first 2 are OK, but do you know how many ways you can spell Kerenhappuch?

[LizzieL]

Have you got Alfred's marriage record 24 jan 1842? Father John (deceased) occ Smith, witnesses Richard Taynton (marks X) and Mary Taynton (signs).

[jmagarac]

I am new here... and I am a Yank. But only 2 generations removed from Eastern Europe. My Grandparents were of Croatian descent. Croatia is part of old Jugoslavia. Jugoslavia was Eastern European and Balkan. Matheitbel does not sound Slavic at all. Not in the least bit.

[garstonite]

records from St Marys,Lambeth London confirm John Taynton married a Matheitbel

https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&sexe=&nom=&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=MATHEITBEL+&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=England%2C+United+Kingdom&country__0__=GBR&region__0__=ENG&subregion__0__=&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=&region__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=&region__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=&region__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=&region__4__=&subregion__4__=&type_periode=between&from=&to=&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1

[LizzieL]

records from St Marys,Lambeth London confirm John Taynton married a Matheitbel

https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&sexe=&nom=&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=MATHEITBEL+&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=England%2C+United+Kingdom&country__0__=GBR&region__0__=ENG&subregion__0__=&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=&region__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=&region__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=&region__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=&region__4__=&subregion__4__=&type_periode=between&from=&to=&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1

These records aren't a marriage. They are just derived from the two baptism records that are already known, they record John Traynor and Matheitbel as parents.

[garstonite]

You are right Lizzie ...of course - but confirms John was with Matheitbel as parents 

[LizzieL]

Charles and Alfred Taynton were baptised on the same day - 9 Feb 1817 at St Mary Lambeth. But we cannot assume they were twins. Charles is first so might be older. There are two separate consecutive entries in the register, so Matheitbel is written twice, but if the vicar/clerk thought that the mother's name was Mehitabel and that was how you spelt it was bound to be the same both times. John's occupation is Smith and they live at Chapel Street. The following year Job Taynton was baptised at same church - 30 May 1818, parents John and Mary, they live at Chapel Street and John's occupation is smith. This seems too soon for Mehitabel to have died and John to have married a Mary and fathered another child. No likely death of a Mehitabel in the area. Could Mehitabel actually be Mary and she used the biblical name occasionally or did the vicar who baptised Charles and Alfred mishear her saying "Mary Taynton" and thought it was one forename?