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Help deciphering a 1924 letter please
« on: Wednesday 09 August 23 21:26 BST (UK) »
Hi I am new to the forum and this seems to be the best place for help.

I am translating a letter regarding my great great uncles death from pneumonia in 1924.

I have already translated one letter from the same person which I think is about 95% correct but I’m really struggling with the his second one so I would greatly appreciate any help.

This is as far as I've got:
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Dear Mrs Snow,
I thank for you for your
kind letter. I offer you my
deepest sympathy in this
very sad loss of your dear
boy. It was a very
real pleasure to us to
do anything for him
in his last illness &
he was such a very
good boy and little
trouble. We all hoped
that the Doctors efforts
would succeed in curing
him but God was
pleased to take him in

his holy ????
to heaven to be blessed
as he requested.
I do hope you keep well
& are ???? feeling ????
????. You have the
consolation of knowing
that everything possible
was done for your dear
one & that he is now
in Heaven.
I hope he’s ???? god all
confidence his good ????
with very kind wishes to
You both I again ????
best ???? to ???? ????
Yours sincerely
Murphey
Matron

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Re: Help deciphering a 1924 letter please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 10 August 23 20:06 BST (UK) »
An attempt at part:

his holy ????
to heaven to be blessed      to heaven so we must
as he requested.                 all be resigned.
I do hope you keep well       I do hope you keep well
& are ???? feeling ????        and are not fretting too
????. You have the              much.
consolation of knowing
that everything possible
was done for your dear
one & that he is now
in Heaven.
I hope he’s ???? god all
confidence his good ????
with very kind wishes to
You both I again ????
best ???? to ???? ????
Yours sincerely
Murphey
Matron


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Re: Help deciphering a 1924 letter please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 August 23 20:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for that, it makes a bit more sense that my go at that part.

Here is another letter I have transcribed from the same person if it helps?

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Re: Help deciphering a 1924 letter please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 August 23 20:29 BST (UK) »
Hi (and welcome to RC!),

Could it be in his holy innocence, perhaps?


Added:

And as regards:
I hope he’s ???? god all
confidence his good ????

I think it might say "get" not "god". And I can't see "confidence" in that word, although I could be wrong. Following that word, I see "in good time".
I wondered whether it was "I hope his scars get all..." but that doesn't really make sense!
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Re: Help deciphering a 1924 letter please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 August 23 21:30 BST (UK) »
I am possibly seeing

I hope Mr Snow get[s?]\got all
Certificates in good time

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Re: Help deciphering a 1924 letter please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 August 23 21:59 BST (UK) »
I am possibly seeing

I hope Mr Snow get[s?]\got all
Certificates in good time

YES!! that would make perfect sense as there are telegrams and letters about requesting the death certificate amongst the many other heartbreaking telegrams and letters of condolence.

This letter in question is one of the very last arriving a few days after the funeral.

Is almost there I think:
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Military Hospital
Shorncliffe
14.12.24

Dear Mrs Snow,
I thank for you for your
kind letter. I offer you my
deepest sympathy in this
very sad loss of your dear
boy. It was a very
real pleasure to us to
do anything for him
in his last illness &
he was such a very
good boy and little
trouble. We all hoped
that the Doctors efforts
would succeed in curing
him but God was
pleased to take him in

his holy innocence
to heaven so we must
all be resigned.
I do hope you keep well
and are not fretting too
much. You have the
consolation of knowing
that everything possible
was done for your dear
one & that he is now
in Heaven.
I hope Mr Snow got all
Certificates In good time.
With my kind wishes to
you both I offer ????
best ???? to you both
Yours sincerely
Murphey
Matron

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Re: Help deciphering a 1924 letter please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 August 23 02:52 BST (UK) »
God was pleased to take him in his holy wisdom in to heaven so we must all be resigned.
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Re: Help deciphering a 1924 letter please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 August 23 08:06 BST (UK) »
I am possibly seeing

I hope Mr Snow get[s?]\got all
Certificates in good time

Good call! I can see "certificates" now!
I think the name could be something else, though - perhaps Stowe or even Steele. Matron doesn't like crossing her t's.  :)

Whatever - that certainly makes a lot more sense.  ;D
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Re: Help deciphering a 1924 letter please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 August 23 09:46 BST (UK) »
Here is my take  :):

"I thank for you for your
kind letter, & I offer you my"

"....&
he was such a very
good boy & so little
trouble"

"I hope Mr Snow got all
Certificates in good time.
With my kind wishes to
you both &  again my
best thanks for your letter
Yours, Frances
           Murphy

                    Matron

The first time "thanks was written in the opening para, it looks like there are all sorts of extra letters in it! Which is which is why I think it is "thanks" again in the closing para.   It makes sense also because in the last para - Matron is closing with a re-iteration of why she wrote in the first place (to thank Mrs Snow for her letter)  I would say an educated manner of letter structure ie:   "again thanks....." ?

I also think it's not "Sincerely" - though it looks like it might be. I don't know if "Sincerely" would be the appropriate word in such a deeply personal letter? besides which the last letter doesn't look like a "y" elsewhere. I think it's Matron's first name -possibly  "Frances" and not crossing her "F". Also, think her surname has no 'e" in it, so just Murphy.

I also think it "holy innocences" ( that's a common religious prayer - & the liturgical "Feast of the Holy Innocents" is 28 December); and I agree with "must all be resigned",  and "fretting" as others have found.

Just curious - how old was great great uncle when he died of pneumonia in 1924?

Cheers
AMBLY

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