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Offline Coney1900

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Identification of a coat of arms
« on: Friday 01 September 23 16:03 BST (UK) »
Does anyone recognise this coat of arms. I think it is English but may be from other parts of the UK and Ireland
Thank you

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Re: Identification of a coat of arms
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 September 23 21:08 BST (UK) »
First up, I know NOTHING about coats of arms. But a seach of heraldic references gave a few suggestions. My first impressions is these are Hares or Rabbits. As Hares, there is quite a bit about their use. Have a look here - https://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/Jpglossh.htm  and scroll down to Hares. As far as these references go, t seems to refer to -      Argent, on a fesse nebuly sable three hare's heads couped or--HAREWELL, Bp. of Bath and Wells, 1366-86.
But it could be just another rabbithole to go down.......
Good luck.


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Re: Identification of a coat of arms
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 September 23 21:49 BST (UK) »
In the first place you have a fess gules (red) placed between 3 hare/rabbit/coney heads.
Sable is black ;)

The coney heads are erased (torn off) rather than couped (cut off with a straight cut).

So: Argent 3 coney heads erased between a bend gules engrailed.
(I think!)
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Re: Identification of a coat of arms
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 September 23 22:07 BST (UK) »
Hi there Seelife and Garrod,
Yes indeed it is a rabbit hole. I have done extensive but obviously not exhaustive internet research on the use of hares, rabbits and coneys and, whilst very interesting, it has thrown no light on this particular coat of arms. I have been in touch with the College of Arms and the Windsor Herald kindly had a look but could not immediately identify it. I am sure it is a UK coat of arms as my stepfather, who was very interested in heraldry, made and painted a number of small wooden shields of coats of arms related to the family and this was the only one without the name written on the back. Of course, as he is no longer with us I can’t ask!!
Hopefully someone will recognise it.
Many thanks for your input
Coney1900


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Re: Identification of a coat of arms
« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 September 23 08:29 BST (UK) »
Your example is of a canting coat-of-arms i.e based on a pun on the surname Coney.

Is it possible that your stepfather "invented" this C-o-A?
Or maybe got the colours wrong?

Although one has to assume the Windsor Herald would have taken these points into account! :D
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Re: Identification of a coat of arms
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 September 23 12:05 BST (UK) »
Burkes General Armory says:

Coney (Marton, and of Bassingthorpe, co. Lincoln). Sa(ble). on a fesse cotised or, betw. three conies ar(gent). as many escallops of the field.

and

Coney (Gillingham, co. Norfolk). Sa(ble). a fesse cotised betw. three conies ar(gent).

and

Coney. Sa(ble). a chev(ron). or

and


Coney, or Coyney. Or, on a bend sa(ble). three trefoils slipped ar(gent).
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Re: Identification of a coat of arms
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 September 23 13:55 BST (UK) »
Hello K Garrad,
Well my stepfather certainly had a sense of humour. The thing is that he made and painted 6 coats of arms related to the family and when he explained what each were it made perfect sense as each name was recognisable but this one I have forgotten. I have researched the coat of arms for each name that I can think of in the family tree from England, Scotland and Ireland and all of them correspond to the shields he painted except this one.
Thank you for the suggestions. I will have to brush up on heraldic terminology!
Coney 1900

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Re: Identification of a coat of arms
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 September 23 14:20 BST (UK) »
Could we see the others and see how his mind works? :)
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Re: Identification of a coat of arms
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 September 23 14:42 BST (UK) »
Hello K Garrad,
Well my stepfather certainly had a sense of humour. The thing is that he made and painted 6 coats of arms related to the family and when he explained what each were it made perfect sense as each name was recognisable but this one I have forgotten. I have researched the coat of arms for each name that I can think of in the family tree from England, Scotland and Ireland and all of them correspond to the shields he painted except this one.
Thank you for the suggestions. I will have to brush up on heraldic terminology!
Coney 1900

Fess or fesse - a horizontal bar across the middle of the shield.
Cotised - with a thinner stripe (of the same colour) either side, but separate.
Bend - a diagonal line, top left to bottom right (as we look at it)
Chevron - a "V" shape, point up

Have a look at https://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/Jpglossa.htm ;)

Example attached is a fess double-coticed.
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