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Trying to find information regarding an ancestor
« on: Wednesday 06 September 23 13:45 BST (UK) »
Trying to find out details of an ancestor named Ellen Thomas/Churchill who I've found on a few census  records in Cardiff.  Born 1852 in Kilkenny.  Her first three children Alice, Meriam and Mary Ann were born Churchill and were baptised in the Workhouse in Cardiff.  So was Ellen ever a Churchill? I can't find a marriage between Ellen and William Thomas who she is named with on the census.  She did go on to have further children I'm presuming with William.  On Meriam's marriage certificate it names her father as Henry Churchill but did this man ever exist? I'm at a brick wall and no idea where to look for Ellen's origins. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks

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Re: Trying to find information regarding an ancestor
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 14:30 BST (UK) »
Presumably this is the family in 1881 Cardiff
William Thomas   32   occ Labourer general   bn Whitchurch, Glamorganshire
Ellen   Thomas   29   bn Kilkenny, Ireland
Meriam Thomas   Dtr age 7
Alice   Thomas   Dtr age 3
Mary Ann   Thomas   Dtr age 2
Children all bn Cardiff
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 14:36 BST (UK) »
CHURCHILL, ALICE       - 
GRO Reference: 1877  Dec Quarter in OF CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 274

THOMAS, MARY  ANN     mmn CHURCHHILL 
GRO Reference: 1879  June Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 237
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Re: Trying to find information regarding an ancestor
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 14:44 BST (UK) »
On Meriam's marriage certificate it names her father as Henry Churchill but did this man ever exist? I'm at a brick wall and no idea where to look for Ellen's origins. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks


I see that Meriam married as Churchill

Other childrens birth registrations
THOMAS, ELIZABETH       mmn CHURCHILL 
GRO Reference: 1882  June Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 246

THOMAS, GEORGE    mmn    CHURCHILL 
GRO Reference: 1888  J Quarter in OF CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 310
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Re: Trying to find information regarding an ancestor
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 17:06 BST (UK) »
Thank you all - that is the right person I didn't know about Elizabeth Thomas

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Re: Trying to find information regarding an ancestor
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 20:16 BST (UK) »
There is a tree on A* that gives Ellen’s maiden name as O’Malley.
Unfortunately no source of information given.

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Re: Trying to find information regarding an ancestor
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 20:42 BST (UK) »
There is a tree on A* that gives Ellen’s maiden name as O’Malley.
Unfortunately no source of information given.

There's an Ellen O'Malley / William Thomas marriage in Cardiff in 1926.

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Re: Trying to find information regarding an ancestor
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 20:50 BST (UK) »
Here they are in 1901

Wm Thomas    53    b Tongwynlais
Ellen Thomas   54    b Kilkenny
Wm J Thomas    16    
George Thomas   14    
Samuel Thomas   10    [registered as Tom, mmn Churchill]
Dinah Thomas   6    [GRO register say Sina, mmn Churchill]
Alfred Talbot   31    Visitor
Miram Talbot   27    Visitor
James Talbot   7    Visitor
Ellen Talbot   5    Visitor
Alfred Talbot   1    Visitor

George was actually a twin - sister Maria, mmn Churchill has same registration reference

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Re: Trying to find information regarding an ancestor
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 21:38 BST (UK) »
And 1911 - suggesting a marriage in 1881/82
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW6V-JCM