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Thomas Bell and Mary Ann Griffith
« on: Thursday 14 September 23 21:25 BST (UK) »
Looking for any information on Thomas Bell or Mary Ann Griffith.  I think Bell was from Birmingham or Coventry, England.  They had 3 children:  Florence (1864-1955), Amy (1868-1944), and John.

I don't have birth or death dates or place of burial.

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Re: Thomas Bell and Mary Ann Griffith
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 October 23 10:02 BST (UK) »
Good morning, Vintage77.

The General Register Office has:

BELL, FLORENCE    
Mother's Maiden Name  GRIFFITHS  
GRO Reference: 1866  S Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 153

BELL, AMY    
Mother's Maiden Name  GRIFFITHS  
GRO Reference: 1868  J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 207

Could be them.

I haven't found a John.

Stefan
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where ancestors try to hide and deceive.

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Re: Thomas Bell and Mary Ann Griffith
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 October 23 10:12 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat.

Thomas BELL (jeweller) married Mary Ann GRIFFITHS 7 March 1858 at St Mary, Handswoth, Staffordshire. Both aged 22, of Handsworth. His father - John BELL (silver plater), her father - John GRIFFITHS (gun finisher).
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5ef87ab5f493fd1d1c15076c

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Re: Thomas Bell and Mary Ann Griffith
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 October 23 10:25 BST (UK) »
Thomas and Mary Ann BELL are relatively easy to find on the various censuses. Thomas says he is born c 1837 in
Sheffield, Mary Ann born c1837 in Birmingham.

This looks probable for Thomas BELL in 1851 in Birmingham with parents John (brazier) and Ann and family.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZN-94T

1861:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7KD-QLW

1871:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27F-HTR2
(Not sure why, this familysearch transcription does not show the whole family - there is also :
Mary A BELL   dau   (8m)  Birmingham
Elizabeth GRIFFITH (mother-in-law)  60  Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Elizabeth GRIFFITH (sister-in-law)  20  Birmingham  (laquerer)

1881:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27F-HTR2

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Re: Thomas Bell and Mary Ann Griffith
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 October 23 10:47 BST (UK) »
This looks like Mary Ann GRIFFITHS in 1851 in Birmingham with parents John (gun finisher) and Elizabeth:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZY-FQS

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Re: Thomas Bell and Mary Ann Griffith
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 October 23 12:17 BST (UK) »
1871: 3 Victoria Place Johnston St. Handsworth
Thomas Bell   34   Head occ: jeweller
Mary A Bell 34   Wife
Thomas Bell 12   Son
Elizabeth Bell 10   Daughter
Alfred Bell 9   Son
John Bell 7   Son
Florence Bell 4   Daughter
Amy Bell 2   Daughter
Mary A Bell  8 months   Daughter
Elizabeth Griffith 60   Mother-in-law
Elizabeth Griffith 20   Sister-in-law
Thomas re-married to Emma Spicer nee Perkins in 1893 Coventry. Both widowed.
This appears to be his death:
Deaths Mar 1921
Bell    Thomas    83    Coventry    6d   785
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Thomas Bell and Mary Ann Griffith
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 October 23 01:00 BST (UK) »
Here is Thomas BELL in 1891 at Coventry with Mary Ann:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WKKY-LZM

and in 1901 with new wife Emma and her son John SPICER
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS8M-M3G

and in 1911 at Coventry:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWZ2-DXK

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Re: Thomas Bell and Mary Ann Griffith
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 October 23 01:05 BST (UK) »
This looks like Mary Ann's death - Mar qtr 1892 Coventry (6d/355) aged 56.

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Re: Thomas Bell and Mary Ann Griffith
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 October 23 01:25 BST (UK) »
You can use the GRO Index to search for Thomas and Mary Ann's children using her maiden name (GRIFFITHS) free to search, though you need to register:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

1858  Tom  (West Bromwich)
1860  Elizabeth  (Aston)
(can't readily see a birth for Alfred c1862 and John c1864)  :-\
1866  Florence  (Birmingham)
1868  Amy  (Birmingham)
1870  Mary Ann  (West Bromwich)
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