Samuel Bowman b 1886 Belfast lookin for his Dad'Dad in Down Ireland Please

[RickyJack]

Hi to the Group,

Trying to find William Bowman dad

taken from the 1901/ Down/ Pottinger/ Templemore Avenue/ Residence of a house Census....Ireland

residence of  a house 56 in Templemore Avenue [Pottinger,Down] Ireland

Head of Family William Bowman age 47 male Baptist = 1854 Co Down Northern Ireland a house painter

wife Jean C Bowman 32 Presbyterian born abt 1869 Belfast

son Thomas Bowman 24 Presbyterian b. 1877

son Samuel Bowman 15 Presbyterian b. 1886 Belfast

son Willie Bowman 0 Methodist

dau Anne 21 Methodist b. 1880

step daughter Lizzie Smyth 20 Methodist b. 1881

step daughter Mary Smyth 18 Methodist b. 1883

This information taken from the National Archives of Ireland....Im guessing kids baptised in different Churches as William probably moved around a bit painting houses

The linage the Family are chasing is Samuel Bowman 1886 who I believe went to the Boer War 1902 and immigrated to Canada 1905, have all that info

Just cannot find Jean C Bowman wedding to William Bowman or wedding to Smyth...her maiden name maybe Dunlop??....not sure and looking for Williams Dad

Thankyou Rick in Australia

[jimbo50]

Possibly another wedding as before Smyth children, Thomas Bowman was born.

[shanreagh]

+I think her name is Jane rather than Jean. She is the mother of the youngest 'Willie".  This might be the family in 1911
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Lisburn/Sloan/200511/

As well as 10 year old Wiliam they also have 6 year old Samuel and have been married for 12 years

Willie was born 11/12/1900 and his mothers 'former' name is shown as McElroy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/01978/1762270.pdf

This may be Jane Bowman's marriage to an Edward  McElroy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10674/5890004.pdf

Edward drowned in 1892 in a canal and was not found for 2 months.  Death Ceritifctae is at 15/2/1892
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1892/06050/4724054.pdf

Here is a marriage in 1898 between a William Bowman and Jane McElroy nee Moore
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10434/5799028.pdf

I say 'a' marriage as the ages for William does not match the age in the censuses
On this marriage the father of William is given as George Bowman. 

See below for the correct marriage (from Alan) of Jessie Catherine Baxter and birth of 'Willie' from Shanreagh

[shanreagh]

This may be the birth of Samuel Bowman in 1886
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02584/1955210.pdf

Father William and mother Mary Jane Smith Bowman

Here is a marriage that may explain the Smyth children
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1885/10865/5967555.pdf

On this certificate  William gives his father's name as Henry Bowman, a watchman.

Mary Jane's maiden Name is given as Anderson. 

[Alan of Kaslo]

1898 William Bowman married Jessie Catherine Baxter

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10403/5788308.pdf

He changed his occupation a bunch of times ...

[shanreagh]

1898 William Bowman married Jessie Catherine Baxter

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10403/5788308.pdf

He changed his occupation a bunch of times ...

Aaah and the father's name is Henry Bowman on this marriage certificate   So looks like Jessie not Jean nor Jane!

The young Willie's birth cert may be incorrect. 

Here is the correct certificate
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/02000/1769037.pdf

[RickyJack]

Thankyou Shanreagh.
Have to admit..bit nervous about the ages from the census for example...if the wife Jean or Jane was born 1869 and had a first marriage to Smyth Lizzie born 1881= 12...bit young...and Thomas born 1877 =8

[shanreagh]

There are several marriages and I may have found another. It is William who has married multiple times. Jessie Catherine Baxter was a spinster at the time of her marriage to William.   

Jessie Catherine Baxter Bowman is the mother of Little Willie aged '0' in the census.

Mary Jane Smyth/Smith Bowman is the mother of Samuel Bowman and may be the mother of the Smyth step children to William Bowman.

I am looking for the births of Anne & Thomas Bowman now

[RickyJack]

Well done guys....Brilliant....however....Im gunna go with the birth of Samuel 1886 Belfast Down,
Please steer me in the right direction as youre going a bit fast for me....on the wedding certificate of William and Mary Jane Smyth it refers to both being Widow and widower...would that make the two Smyth kids Mary Janes from another marriage??? then Mary Jane died and William takes up with Jessie Baxter.
William being married before Smyth and Baxter. Remembering Thomas Bowman was born 1877 Willian being born 1854 works