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Re: Elizabeth Maud Shaw - Matthew Otter - Jersey CI deportees WW2
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 05 October 23 15:48 BST (UK) »
Found an earlier birth

OTTER, FREDERICK  WILLIAM     SHAW 
GRO Reference: 1911  M Quarter in NEWCASTLE UNDER LYME  Volume 06B  Page 49

Looks as though it is just the two children.  Possibly Matthew was in the 1st world war hence the gap between Fred and Maud.

Matthew Otter age 22
Residence town Newcastle On Tyne
Service number 11896
Regiment North Staffordshire Regiment (Prince Of Wales's)
Unit / Battalion 3rd New Battalion

Next of Kin wife Maude Elizabeth Otter address 2 Cross M? St., Higherland Newcastle Staffs

Married Parish Church Newcastle Aug 1910 Witnesses James & Annie Smith

Child
Fred’k William born 11 Dec 1910 Newcastle Staffs Bapt. Higherland Chapel
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Re: Elizabeth Maud Shaw - Matthew Otter - Jersey CI deportees WW2
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 05 October 23 16:41 BST (UK) »

Maud is my wife's great aunt, she is from the Otter family, My problem is to correctly assign Maud to the correct spouse by identifying Matthew Otter's parents,  does anyone know whether his mother was Lucy Chapman or Priscilla Joynson?
 

Does this help?

UK, Foreign and Overseas Registers of British Subjects, 1628-1969

Notice of death of a British Subject

Maude Elizabeth Otter died 22 March 1944 in Germany
Born 16 April 1890 Newcastle-u-Lyme Staffs

Relatives of friend in country where death occurred Widower Matthew Otter, Intermierungslager, Biberach

Nearest relative in British Empire M Downing “Verbena” London Road Chartlon Kings
Cheltenham

Cheshire BMD has an Otter/Downing 1942 marriage entry at Crewe, Civil Marriage or Registrar Attended - doesn't give her full middle name just initial 'E' same on FreeBMD

FreeBMD showing one Downing/Otter birth Mar 1944 Cheltenham - GRO indexes have a death same name, qtr. and year
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Re: Elizabeth Maud Shaw - Matthew Otter - Jersey CI deportees WW2
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 31 July 24 11:49 BST (UK) »
Hi - Elizabeth Maud was my auntie and Matthew Otter was uncle.  Their children - Fred, Maud and Harry were my cousins.  I was named after Fred :)


kind regards
Fred.

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Re: Elizabeth Maud Shaw - Matthew Otter - Jersey CI deportees WW2
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 31 July 24 11:51 BST (UK) »
Matthew's mother was Lucy Chapman


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Re: Elizabeth Maud Shaw - Matthew Otter - Jersey CI deportees WW2
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 31 July 24 11:52 BST (UK) »
HI, I am looking to solve a problem in my family tree.

Maud is my wife's great aunt, she is from the Otter family,
My problem is to correctly assign Maud to the correct spouse by identifying Matthew Otter's parents,  does anyone know whether his mother was Lucy Chapman or Priscilla Joynson?
 

Matthew's mother was Lucy Chapman - kind regards Fred.