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Tracing Gt.Gt.G.Mother. Catherine Gonzales Smith's Parents.
« on: Monday 20 November 23 07:53 GMT (UK) »
CATHERINE GONZALES SMITH, married PETER Mc ELROY IN 1853 (?) & HAD 4 CHILDREN,Bernard, Catherine, Ellen and Peter in Newcastle UK. She is my Gt.Gt.G.mother.
We would like to know Cath. GONZALES (link)...is there a Spanish connection from her ancestors?
It is thought that her husband Peter (1820 - 1909) returned to Monaghan, Ireland after she died.
Her daughter Catherine (Kate) went to Australia, 1881  and gave her second child the name of Vera INEZ Lucy.   CATHERINE  died young after having more children.
The Gonzales name has puzzelled family, and would like to know how this name was dropped into our family history, and as she had the name, it's thought to come through her lineage. 

Any thoughts and hints would be appreciated from this knowledgeable forum please.

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Re: Tracing Gt.Gt.G.Mother. Catherine Gonzales Smith's Parents.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 November 23 08:10 GMT (UK) »
This looks like the marriage and would give you fathers’ names.

June quarter 1852 Newcastle upon Tyne vol 10b pg 181

Peter Mucklerey/Muckleroy and Catherine Smith are on the same page.
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Re: Tracing Gt.Gt.G.Mother. Catherine Gonzales Smith's Parents.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 November 23 08:12 GMT (UK) »
do you have any siblings for Catherine ??

could this be one ??

https://gw.geneanet.org/afinch7?n=smith&oc=&p=lenita+gonzales
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Tracing Gt.Gt.G.Mother. Catherine Gonzales Smith's Parents.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 November 23 08:29 GMT (UK) »
Heywoods find - they married 2nd May 1852

Name   Peter Muckleroy
Sex   Male
Father's Name   Peter Muckleroy
Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Catherine Muckleroy
Mother's Sex   Female
Spouse's Name   Catherine Smith
Spouse's Sex   Female
Spouse's Father's Name   James Smith
Spouse's Father's Sex   Male
Spouse's Mother's Name   Cathrine Smith
Event Type   Marriage
Event Date   2 May 1852
Event Place   England, United Kingdom
.....................
So I have to ask - she married as Cathrine Smith - where on record do you have the Gonzales middle name ???
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford


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Re: Tracing Gt.Gt.G.Mother. Catherine Gonzales Smith's Parents.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 November 23 08:31 GMT (UK) »
1861 (indexed as Mc DROY on Ancestry)  Catherine says born Ireland

born about 1826/1827 (from that census and death)

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Re: Tracing Gt.Gt.G.Mother. Catherine Gonzales Smith's Parents.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 November 23 08:34 GMT (UK) »
CATHERINE GONZALES SMITH, married PETER Mc ELROY IN 1853 (?) & HAD 4 CHILDREN,Bernard, Catherine, Ellen and Peter in Newcastle UK. She is my Gt.Gt.G.mother.


and Mary Ann who is age 2 in 1861

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Re: Tracing Gt.Gt.G.Mother. Catherine Gonzales Smith's Parents.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 November 23 08:38 GMT (UK) »
1851 2405 /196/18
Gallowgate, Newcastle
James Smith 62 yrs
Charles 30yrs
Catherine 22 yrs
Helen 14 yrs
John Murphy 18yrs Lodger

All born Ireland
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Re: Tracing Gt.Gt.G.Mother. Catherine Gonzales Smith's Parents.
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 November 23 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Died as Catherine McElroy in March quarter 1867 age 41  just to stop others looking.

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Re: Tracing Gt.Gt.G.Mother. Catherine Gonzales Smith's Parents.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 November 23 09:06 GMT (UK) »
GRO births

MACALROY, Bernard    mms.       SMITH 
1853  MarQ               Newcastle upon Tyne Vol 10B  Page 25

MACKLEROY, Catherine   mms.     SMITH 
1855  MarQ               Newcastle upon Tyne Vol 10B  Page 44

MCALBROY, Ellen          mms.     SMITH 
1856  JunQ               Newcastle upon Tyne Vol 10B  Page 25

MUCKELROY, Mary Ann  mms    SMITH 
 1858 JunQ               Newcastle upon Tyne Vol 10B  Page 9

MCALROY, James          mms      SMITH 
1862  JunQ               Newcastle upon Tyne Vol 10B  Page 30

MCELROY, Elizabeth      mms.      SMITH 
1865  MarQ               Newcastle upon Tyne Vol 10B  Page 63