I need help again please

[dorothyl]

Hello again everyone.
As you know I've been trying to find out everything about my great grandfather Samuel Benjamin Cooper.
At the moment I'm trying to find out what he died of.
I'm a member of a group Manchester military 1914-18.
I've had a few comments.
But one of them was from my brother.

Unfortunately he can't send me anything via messenger he said because nothing is getting through.

From what I have been told. My great grandfather Samuel tried to join the army. But he was only in for 83 days.
He was classed as unfit.

My brother did this comment.

Dot E Lucas Because he lied about his age, he told them he was 34 but he was 10years older (44), also unfit for duty, that could well because of his work at the time, he was a Labourer at Bradford Colliery so it could be due to coal dust, lung problems or just a case of minor ailment, it'll just be guess work to try narrow it down to a specific cause, unless you can find his personal medical records from around that era, somehow I doubt they will exist, it might shine some light on it if you have a copy of his death certificate giving the cause of death, he might have a had a long suffering illness but again it'll only be guess work.


So now I'm trying to find his cause of his death.
I can't buy a copy of his death certificate. Because I only know his dob.

Please if anyone can help me.
I really would appreciate it.

Thank you all so much for your help with everything.
Kind regards Dorothy

[philipsearching]

When was Samuel born?

As you have his name and date of birth, maybe you can find him on the 1939 Register.  If he is recorded this would give a location and 'last known alive' date to narrow down the search.  Alternatively his wife might be on the 1939 Register without him which could indicate that he may have died before 1939.

There aren't that many Samuel COOPER deaths in the West Riding and very few in Bradford registration district, so it might be possible to narrow the search down to a handful of possibles then see if there are any death notices in local papers online.

Hope this helps
Philip

[heywood]

As Dorothy is a member of a Manchester  group, I would think that the colliery would be Bradford, Manchester.

[Kloumann]

I think this is his death in 1941, age 61.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVCH-3CHL

[BumbleB]

Samuel Benjamin Cooper, according to his headstone, died on 20 January 1942 in his 71st year.  FreeBMD have the entry as:

January quarter 1942 - Samuel B - 70 - Manchester Registration District - 8d - page 617.

And you have the image of his headstone, which also records Isabella (Povey) his wife, and his two sons, William and Thomas who both died in WW1,

[philipsearching]

As Dorothy is a member of a Manchester  group, I would think that the colliery would be Bradford, Manchester.

Good point.  My knowledge of coal mining areas is minimal.

[BumbleB]

AND - either you or your brother could download a digital copy of his death certificate for £2.50

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

You will have to register, but there is no charge for that - all you pay for is the copy!

[jc26red]

His DOB in 1939 was recorded as 14 Jul 1871