HAMMANS Family Tree

[R.Hammans]

Hi all,

My brother and I have been researching our family name off and on since the 1980s. We've amassed an immense amount of information over the years and now - with me 73 and my brother 87 - we've decided to put it to rest before either of us are, so I am putting it in book form.

The rather unique spelling 'HammANS' has made it somewhat easier, but of course we've had to take into account all the Hamans, Hammond, Hammonds, Haymans, etc, it has been incorrectly transcribed as over the years.

There are around four generations of bakers in our line but we've hit the familiar brick wall in verifying with any certainty where we originated from. Likely candidates are Ashby St Ledgers, Northants, and Oxfordshire (Marcham, West Hanney)

So the names of particular interest to us include HAMMANS (obviously), POITEVIN, GARRETT and ELLIOT (one 'T'). If anyone else is looking into my own or anyone else's name from our lineage then feel free to make contact.

Roy Hammans

[RW1]

Hi

I have researched Elizabeth Mary Hammans, née Wright (14 May 1880 to 16 May 1970), in connection with the history of a house.

She was married to John Leonard Hammans, a baker in his early life, from London.

One of yours?

[garstonite]

ASHBY marriage
William Hammans
Married October 1, 1780, Ashby St Ledgers, Northamptonshire, England, to Ann Bawcutt /1745-1824 with
M Thomas Hammans /1782-
F Ann Hammans /1785-
M Joseph Hammans /1787-
 one of yours

added
just in case  - Ann Bawcutts parents

     William Bawcutt 1707-/1773        Sarah Marler 1711-/1806
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William Hammans †/1802   ( death date )          Ann Bawcutt /1745-1824   
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[R.Hammans]

Hi

I have researched Elizabeth Mary Hammans, née Wright (14 May 1880 to 16 May 1970), in connection with the history of a house.

She was married to John Leonard Hammans, a baker in his early life, from London.

One of yours?

Yes indeed RW, my first cousin, once removed. John was known as Jack in the family. He emigrated to Australia in 1948.
I didn't know he was a baker, like his father and so many in my family, and also didn't have dates for Elizabeth's birth & death, so thanks for that.
May I ask the location of the house you were researching?

[R.Hammans]

ASHBY marriage
William Hammans
Married October 1, 1780, Ashby St Ledgers, Northamptonshire, England, to Ann Bawcutt /1745-1824 with
M Thomas Hammans /1782-
F Ann Hammans /1785-
M Joseph Hammans /1787-
 one of yours

Yes indeed, thank you. I believe he was my 4th great grandfather, but there's some sorting out for me to do to confirm. I believe Ann Bawcutt was his 2nd wife, he was married to Ann Montgomery previously.

[RW1]

Yes indeed RW, my first cousin, once removed. John was known as Jack in the family. He emigrated to Australia in 1948.
I didn't know he was a baker, like his father and so many in my family, and also didn't have dates for Elizabeth's birth & death, so thanks for that.
May I ask the location of the house you were researching?

The house is in Long Ditton, Surbiton, and I picked up Elizabeth Mary Hanmans (sic) on the 1936 electoral register.  I believe Elizabeth would have been working as a nurse to the elderly man who lived in the house.  His previous nurse had been taken ill and died in December 1936.  He would have been 100 years old at this time.  Although a slightly different spelling, I am convinced this is the same person - as Elizabeth, John Leonard and their son, Philip Reginald, are still in Surbiton (92 Queen's Drive) at the time of the 1939 Register. 

Elizabeth, a trained nurse, joined the Australian Imperial Force (1st Auxiliary Hospital), arriving in Brisbane in 1915 - she returned to England in 1917, and was discharged after contracting pleurisy.  John Leonard Hammans joined the 15th Infantry Battalion on 21 September 1914 in Casino, New South Wales.  Elizabeth must have returned to Australia as she married John in Queensland in 1920.

As you say, Elizabeth and John returned to Australia in 1948, after many years back in England, on board the “Strathaird”, and a photograph of them returning (under the heading “Passengers In Strathaird”) appeared in The Herald (Melbourne, Victoria) of Monday 14 June 1948, page 2.  Hope this link works:

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/247298709?searchTerm=Hammans

Hope this is of interest.  My research obviously was restricted to the actual building and its inhabitants, rather than wider family histories.

PS John's battalion was the 15th, not the 13th as stated in the newspaper.  His military service number was "13", which has perhaps been mixed up.

[R.Hammans]

Yes indeed RW, my first cousin, once removed. John was known as Jack in the family. He emigrated to Australia in 1948.
I didn't know he was a baker, like his father and so many in my family, and also didn't have dates for Elizabeth's birth & death, so thanks for that.
May I ask the location of the house you were researching?

The house is in Long Ditton, Surbiton, and I picked up Elizabeth Mary Hanmans (sic) on the 1936 electoral register.  I believe Elizabeth would have been working as a nurse to the elderly man who lived in the house.  His previous nurse had been taken ill and died in December 1936.  He would have been 100 years old at this time.  Although a slightly different spelling, I am convinced this is the same person - as Elizabeth, John Leonard and their son, Philip Reginald, are still in Surbiton (92 Queen's Drive) at the time of the 1939 Register. 

Elizabeth, a trained nurse, joined the Australian Imperial Force (1st Auxiliary Hospital), arriving in Brisbane in 1915 - she returned to England in 1917, and was discharged after contracting pleurisy.  John Leonard Hammans joined the 15th Infantry Battalion on 21 September 1914 in Casino, New South Wales.  Elizabeth must have returned to Australia as she married John in Queensland in 1920.

As you say, Elizabeth and John returned to Australia in 1948, after many years back in England, on board the “Strathaird”, and a photograph of them returning (under the heading “Passengers In Strathaird”) appeared in The Herald (Melbourne, Victoria) of Monday 14 June 1948, page 2.  Hope this link works:

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/247298709?searchTerm=Hammans

Hope this is of interest.  My research obviously was restricted to the actual building and its inhabitants, rather than wider family histories.

PS John's battalion was the 15th, not the 13th as stated in the newspaper.  His military service number was "13", which has perhaps been mixed up.

The link did work, thank you. Always good to find a photograph, have added it to my Ancestry tree along with the other information you so kindly provided.