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Help in Llanddulas
« on: Monday 12 February 24 10:49 GMT (UK) »
Hello there,

I'm trying to uncover more about my Great Grandmother Mary Jones, born 1858 in Llanddulas. I know her Father's name was Thomas and he was a 'Rockman' and the family at some point between her birth and her marriage in 1877, they moved to Liverpool (she marries in Liverpool.)

I possibly have a link to unravel but it's a bit tenuous at the minute. Looking at the nearest Church - St Cynbryd's, in 1852 an Emma Davies married a Thomas Jones then in 1858 a Mary Jones was baptised there and the address Tyn Y Wal, which I think was a farm. Unfortunately I can't find any 1851 / 1861 Census record of this address and by 1871 it appears to have been running in the 'Evans' family.

I'm trying to find Mary's birth record and on GRO there are many options. My question is, back in 1858, what would the registration district be known as for Llanddulas, where the birth would have been registered?

Many thanks for helping if you can.
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Re: Help in Llanddulas
« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 February 24 10:53 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Help in Llanddulas
« Reply #2 on: Monday 12 February 24 11:14 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much CaroleW

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Re: Help in Llanddulas
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 February 24 11:28 GMT (UK) »

Baptism;
18 Apr 1858, St Cynbryd, Llanddulas
MARY, Daug of THOMAS/EMMA Jones
Abode Ty'n-y-Wal
Father a Rockman
(Source FeeREG)

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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)


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Re: Help in Llanddulas
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 February 24 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Also on FreeREG siblings;
Louisa bapt 9 June 1853
Anne bapt 21 Oct 1855


JONES, LOUISA mmn   DAVIES
GRO Reference: 1853  J Quarter in ST ASAPH  Volume 11B  Page 370

1871 Louisa is visting in Lancashire a Evans Family
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Help in Llanddulas
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 February 24 12:00 GMT (UK) »
There is a Burial of a THOMAS Jones 22 Aug 1864 age 39 (c 1825)
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Help in Llanddulas
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 February 24 12:11 GMT (UK) »
Maybe ignore that Burial.

Is this Thomas/Emma in 1871?
Thomas Jones 40 Head Mar Quarreyman
Emma Jones 41 Wife
David Jones 10 Son
Evan Jones 4 Son
Jane Jones 1 Daughter
All born Llandulas, Denbighshire.

JONES, EVAN mmn DAVIES 
GRO Reference: 1867  J Quarter in ST ASAPH  Volume 11B  Page 422
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 February 24 12:18 GMT (UK) »
Amy Ann EARNSHAW bapt    22 Aug 1875, St Cynbryd to GEORGE/Louisa
Born Huddersfield, Father a Warehouse Man

1881 Amy is with her Mother Louisa visiting Thomas/Emma Jones

Cant see the Family 1861 yet.
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Re: Help in Llanddulas
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 February 24 13:10 GMT (UK) »
On the 1851 Census Thomas Jones, age 19, quarryman, born Abergele, is with parents Evan and Elizabeth and brother John at "Tyn y Wall, village of Llandulas". About 10 households away are the Rectory and Bd-hyfryd - which can be seen on this 1872 map
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102341156#zoom=6&lat=6839&lon=5196&layers=BT

Thomas' marriage cert confirms father as Evan Jones, Rockman.