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Apprenticeships records
« on: Friday 23 February 24 10:14 GMT (UK) »
I'm trying to find any apprenticeship records linked to my grandfather and great grandfather.

My great grandfather, Charles Romang, is shown as an apprentice watchmaker in the 1871 census. He is based in 1 Old Compton Street and working for Henry E Saquel a Swiss watchmaker.

In 1881 he is living with his uncle John Pattle in Poplar working as an Engine fitter on iron ships and must have had an apprenticeship in the docks. I know he worked for R & H Green & Silley Weir Ltd.

My grandfather Auguste Romang was also an apprentice ship fitter in the London docks after leaving the army in 1920.

Is there anywhere i can look or approach regarding records of apprenticeships.

Thanks
Romang - Switzerland & London
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Guy - Seaton Delaval
Beck / Wood - New Hartley
Lloyd - Shropshire & Suffolk

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Re: Apprenticeships records
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 February 24 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Have a look here:
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/history-and-heritage/guildhall-library/family-history/apprenticeship-records

https://www.londonroll.org

Added: I checked out 'londonroll'. They don't cover watchmakers. who I would think come under 'The Worshipful Company of Clockmakers'. https://clockmakers.org/home.
It's always worth checking other livery companies than the one you'd think they'd belong to though. I was stuck for many years looking at The Dyers Company for an ancestor who was a dyer, only to suddenly find he had been apprenticed in The Drapers' Company!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worshipful_Company_of_Clockmakers
this says archives at The Guildhall.

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Re: Apprenticeships records
« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 February 24 21:16 GMT (UK) »
Great , will have a look. Thanks for your help
Romang - Switzerland & London
Johnson - Limehouse
Guy - Seaton Delaval
Beck / Wood - New Hartley
Lloyd - Shropshire & Suffolk

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Re: Apprenticeships records
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 February 24 09:08 GMT (UK) »
It's always worth checking other livery companies than the one you'd think they'd belong to though. I was stuck for many years looking at The Dyers Company for an ancestor who was a dyer, only to suddenly find he had been apprenticed in The Drapers' Company!

I read this when researching my Gx5 GF, who was apprenticed to the Worshipful Company of Innholders as a Cabinet Maker:

The Worshipful Company of Innholders is one of the City of London livery companies, originally created from Guilds or Trade Associations connected to particular trades, crafts or occupations; in this case hostelers and innkeepers. After around 1650 however, it became increasingly common and in some companies virtually universally the case that their members practised other trades altogether, so an apprentice's master may not necessarily have followed the trade indicated by the company's name.
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