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Re: Robert A[Alexander] HUNTER b c 1857, Scotland who are his parents?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 02 April 24 17:06 BST (UK) »
I am sure you have  ;D

Just some thoughts from me.

As you may have seen by now from Elizabeth Wotherspoon's death reg., her mother was reported as Mary de Forest. Elizabeth also showed with the middle name of Russell for the first time.

I think her parents may have more likely been a John Wotherspoon and Janet Duncan. This is the family in 1851 www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59027aace9379091b11bc611/elisabeth-witherspoon-1851-ayrshire-ayr-1847-?locale=en

As part of the entries for this family, there is this entry for Elizabeth (the date will be either birth or christening):

ELISABETH WOTHERSPOON
Parents JOHN WOTHERSPOON/JANET DUNCAN
23/12/1848
Ref: 596 20 / 202
Kilbirnie

The family's 1871 entry:

John Wotherspoon 61 Oversman at Furnace b.New Monkland, Lanarkshire
Janet Wotherspoon 56 b. Cambuslang, Lanarkshire
Elizabeth Wotherspoon 22 Teacher of Female School b. Kilbirnie, Ayrshire
Mary Wotherspoon 20 b. Kilbirnie, Ayrshire

Address Chemical Row, Stevenson, Ayrshire

I can't see any sign of a death for an Elizabeth Wotherspoon, with mother's maiden name Duncan that fits for this Elizabeth. I think this is the Elizabeth who headed off to Michigan and married Robert Alexander. Something else that makes me think that is Elizabeth's younger sister Mary...

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Re: Robert A[Alexander] HUNTER b c 1857, Scotland who are his parents?
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 02 April 24 17:14 BST (UK) »
if that is what the Glases on the death cert is meant to indicate
There is a parish called Glass in Aberdeenshire.

This information may or may not be relevant.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Robert A[Alexander] HUNTER b c 1857, Scotland who are his parents?
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 02 April 24 17:23 BST (UK) »
Mary looks to be the youngest in the Wotherspoon family. Her entry in the parish records:

MARY WOTHERSPOON
Parents JOHN WOTHERSPOON/JANET DUNCAN
05/12/1850
Ref 596 20 / 221
Kilbirnie

I think the Mary D Wilcox who shows in the Hunter Household in 1910 and 1920 as sister in law to Robert is this Mary. I think an error was made showing her as Hunter in 1910.

Mary is still in Scotland for the 1881 census:

John Wotherspoon 71 Retired Furnace Manager b.New Monkland, Lanarkshire
Janet Wotherspoon 66 b. Cambuslang, Lanarkshire
Mary Wotherspoon 29 Daughter b. Kilbirnie, Ayrshire

Address 449 St Vincent St, Glasgow/ Anderston

I think I can now see where the name Forrest comes in (and given in error on Elizabeth's death registration). Her maternal grandmother looks to have had the maiden name of Forrest.

Janet Duncan or Wotherspoon died in Ardrossan Old, Ayrshire in 1890 at the age of 75. Her mother's maiden name is showing as Forrest.

Similarly, John Wotherspoon looks to have died in the Anderston area of Glasgow in 1888 at the age of 78. His mother's name is showing as Russell on the index (the middle name showing for Elizabeth on her death registration....looks like both her grandmothers made their stamp on that registration!).

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Re: Robert A[Alexander] HUNTER b c 1857, Scotland who are his parents?
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 02 April 24 22:17 BST (UK) »
From the Death certificate (informant was Robert A Hunter)

Mary D Wilcox  [Mary D Wetherspoon]
Gender   Female
Race   White
Occupation Retired school teacher
Marital Status   Widowed
Death Age   62
Birth Date   1858
Birth Place   Glasgow Scotland
Death Date   10 Feb. 1920
Death Place   Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, USA
Father   - John Wetherspoon
Mother   - Jane Russell          ( We know now, this surname not correct)
Milligan - Jardine Glencross Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark Faulds Cuthbertson Bryson Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale Cater Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: Robert A[Alexander] HUNTER b c 1857, Scotland who are his parents?
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 02 April 24 22:26 BST (UK) »
Mary B Weatherspoon, Age   35
Marriage Date   6 Dec. 1892
Marriage Place   Hopkins, Mason, Michigan, USA
Spouse Levi Wilcox

Mary's birth place is recorded as Scotland, and both parents "unknown".


The 1900 census, shows her husband Levi Wilcox is a farmer aged 74.
Mary born Oct 1864 (aged 37)

Doesn't she love to play around with her age! It's all over the place!! :)
Milligan - Jardine Glencross Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark Faulds Cuthbertson Bryson Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale Cater Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Robert A[Alexander] HUNTER b c 1857, Scotland who are his parents?
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 02 April 24 22:39 BST (UK) »
1871 census Stevenston Ayrshire, Chemical Row

John Wotherspoon 61 born New Monkland, furnace worker
Janet Wotherspoon 56 born Cambuslang
Mary Wotherspoon 20 daughter born Kilbirnie
Elizabeth Wotherspoon 22 daughter born Kilbirnie, teacher

SAME FAMILY that Monica has posted about, reply #20.

This is the family in 1851 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59027aace9379091b11bc614/mary-witherspoon-1851-ayrshire-ayr-1847-?locale=en
There was another son (Alexander) born in 1854

The family in 1841 in Rutherglen
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a14dd4af4040b9d6ee30ee3/john-wotherspoon-1841-lanarkshire-rutherglen-1811-?locale=en
Milligan - Jardine Glencross Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark Faulds Cuthbertson Bryson Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale Cater Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Robert A[Alexander] HUNTER b c 1857, Scotland who are his parents?
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 03 April 24 04:14 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Neale1961, MonicaL and Forfarian for your postings.  The information is very interesting and helpful.

It is likely that the Mother of Robert A Hunter (snr) is Jean/Jane Auld.

There are a couple of possibilities for his father - is there one more likely - to clarify?

Thanks
TPB

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Re: Robert A[Alexander] HUNTER b c 1857, Scotland who are his parents?
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 03 April 24 05:07 BST (UK) »
Re reply #14
Since found on Familysearch as family tree for Jane AULD which indicates that Jane married on 15 July 1843 at Ayr a Francis MCCALL.  Francis was b 1825 and died 1875.

Jane AULD and Hugh Hunter had a son Robert Hunter 1847. 

Hugh Hunter was born 1817 Kilwinning - no parents stated.

I have contacted account holder in Canada, fingers crossed he responds!

TPB

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Re: Robert A[Alexander] HUNTER b c 1857, Scotland who are his parents?
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 03 April 24 06:08 BST (UK) »
Yes he did respond but not able to assist with further information.

TPB