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Re: Helena Molony in censuses
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 02 April 24 20:32 BST (UK) »
Scroll down the list of names. Under the names you will see links on left side of page. Click on the link which says Prison Return (form K) and then you'll see the page I posted a link for. At top of that page it gives details of the institution.

Have you found 2nd wife Catherine/Kate after 1901 census? might show something of interest.
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Re: Helena Molony in censuses
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 02 April 24 20:33 BST (UK) »
Maurice Francis Moloney-

Here's the passenger manifest- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JX18-DXM
Sister Miss H. Moloney, 6 Lower Sherrard St., Dublin. Also gives address of uncle Patrick Anderson in N.Y.

On the facing page of the passenger manifest he says he's going to an uncle, Patrick Anderson of 342 West 11th Street, New York, then continues with "Dispch [I think] to Mrs Dudley Diggs 747 Southern Boulevard, Bronx, NYC". Mrs Dudley Digges was the actress and Inghinidhe na h-Éireann member Máire Quinn, a friend of Helena Molony's.

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Re: Helena Molony in censuses
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 02 April 24 20:35 BST (UK) »
It's Disch = discharged.
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Re: Helena Molony in censuses
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 02 April 24 20:41 BST (UK) »
Scroll down the list of names. Under the names you will see links on left side of page. Click on the link which says Prison Return (form K) and then you'll see the page I posted a link for. At top of that page it gives details of the institution.

Have you found 2nd wife Catherine/Kate after 1901 census? might show something of interest.

I have found a few possibilities but nothing likely for CathKate.

I'm dense; I can't see any Prison Return


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Re: Helena Molony in censuses
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 02 April 24 20:41 BST (UK) »
It's Disch = discharged.

What would that mean on a ship's manifest?

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Re: Helena Molony in censuses
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 02 April 24 20:45 BST (UK) »
Ah, dinner is called. Tomorrow.
(Thank you for all this fantastic help.)

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Re: Helena Molony in censuses
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 02 April 24 20:49 BST (UK) »
Discharged to the care of rather than to the nearest relative/friend list (Patrick Anderson). In other words, although Patrick was a uncle they were going to stay with someone else in N.Y.

Search page- https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
fill in M (surname), H (forename), 28 (age), select Dublin (county) and female (sex). Also county of origin (Dublin).

Brings up 1 entry-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?searchMoreVisible=true&census_year=1911&surname=m&firstname=h&county19011911=Dublin&county1821=&county1831=&county1841=&county1851=&parish=&ward=&barony=&townland=&houseNumber=&ded=&age=28&sex=F&search=Search&ageInMonths=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&yearsMarried=&birthplace=Dublin&nativeCountry=&language=&deafdumb=&causeOfDeath=&yearOfDeath=&familiesNumber=&malesNumber=&femalesNumber=&maleServNumber=&femaleServNumber=&estChurchNumber=&romanCatNumber=&presbNumber=&protNumber=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=

Click on that entry and you get long list of names and links below then-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Drumcondra/Gracepark_Road/14157/

Click on Prison Return (form K)- 1st option which brings you to this page which shows name of institution at top-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000027863/

The entry for H.M. is on additional page 7 towards bottom of page-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000027871/
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Re: Helena Molony in censuses
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 03 April 24 06:55 BST (UK) »
Discharged to the care of rather than to the nearest relative/friend list (Patrick Anderson). In other words, although Patrick was a uncle they were going to stay with someone else in N.Y.

Search page- https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
fill in M (surname), H (forename), 28 (age), select Dublin (county) and female (sex). Also county of origin (Dublin).

Brings up 1 entry-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?searchMoreVisible=true&census_year=1911&surname=m&firstname=h&county19011911=Dublin&county1821=&county1831=&county1841=&county1851=&parish=&ward=&barony=&townland=&houseNumber=&ded=&age=28&sex=F&search=Search&ageInMonths=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&yearsMarried=&birthplace=Dublin&nativeCountry=&language=&deafdumb=&causeOfDeath=&yearOfDeath=&familiesNumber=&malesNumber=&femalesNumber=&maleServNumber=&femaleServNumber=&estChurchNumber=&romanCatNumber=&presbNumber=&protNumber=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=

Click on that entry and you get long list of names and links below then-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Drumcondra/Gracepark_Road/14157/

Click on Prison Return (form K)- 1st option which brings you to this page which shows name of institution at top-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000027863/

The entry for H.M. is on additional page 7 towards bottom of page-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000027871/

Ahh. Thank you. They have her initials reversed?

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Re: Helena Molony in censuses
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 03 April 24 07:32 BST (UK) »
Helena Molony toured with the Abbey Theatre… not sure of the year. She spent all of 1914 in France with Maud Gonne, think it might have been when she came back… either 1912-1913 or 1915. Probably not 1913 when she was running the shirt factory in Liberty Hall.
I took a look to see if Frank/Maurice had applied for a US passport, but no luck; he emigrated to America in 1909 and died in 1967, I think.