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Re: Julian de Ovies and Eleanor, nee Cassidy
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 15 May 24 15:35 BST (UK) »
A drawing of Julian is in an ad/faux newspaper article here - https://www.newspapers.com/article/evening-courier/147431735/

Minnie/Countess Blanca's obituary is here - https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-plain-dealer-obituary-for-countess-b/147431954/

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Re: Julian de Ovies and Eleanor, nee Cassidy
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 15 May 24 18:37 BST (UK) »
There's more newspaper stuff out there about Julian than you can shake a stick at - but the bulk relates to specific years eg 1906 and 1910.
I've seen reference in the papers to his 1891 marriage thru' Blanca's 1927 death - they married in Spain. Any confirmation of this?

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Re: Julian de Ovies and Eleanor, nee Cassidy
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 15 May 24 19:49 BST (UK) »
The son Julian died by suicide in 1897 in Michigan.  The newspaper article about it seemed to be suspicious of his father's reported nobility.  https://www.newspapers.com/article/detroit-free-press/147447495/

The Countess had a fake ad mentioning her Spanish ancestors in various newspapers in 1901.  https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-tennessean/147447297/

The Countess opened a school of psychology in Atlantic City.  https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-buffalo-times/147447193/ 

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Re: Julian de Ovies and Eleanor, nee Cassidy
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 15 May 24 20:27 BST (UK) »
In her passport application, Minnie claimed that they married in 1891 in New York City.  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV5Y-N6RP

I didn't see any likely matches for that marriage. 


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Re: Julian de Ovies and Eleanor, nee Cassidy
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 15 May 24 20:48 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone, thank you all for your interest. It has all proved much valuable help.  :)

I haven't found any evidence of a marriage between Julian and Minnie, and I've always been rather sceptical of if they did actually marry.

Thanks to one of the newspaper articles, I think by early 1888, Eleanor and Julian were still together, when Julian and George Cassidy arrived in Buffalo.

I haven't really looked into Julian's family, or the legitimacy of his claims about his wealth and nobility from his heritage, but it certainly seems like he was a wealthy and important man.

I will contact the Liverpool Record Office about Eleanor's records from the Rainhill Asylum, I've had other relatives in there, and the records they provide (at least by the 1930s) were very numerous, so hopefully there may be some more information there about her life and what happened to her relatives.  :)