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Names of children in death registration help, please
« on: Friday 31 May 24 05:08 BST (UK) »
Jane Johnston married (Edinburgh 1839) to John Murray and they had their first child, (John born about 1841) in Scotland before coming to Victoria, Australia, (arrived Jan 1842).
I can only find the birth record for their last (Ellen/Helen 1860) in Victoria. There were other children and I purchased Jane's death registration (1875) to see all their names. (I also got John's but the informant didn't know any family information.)
So I see, John 34 years, Jessie deceased, Marion 27 years, ? 23 years, Jane deceased, James 21 years, Daniel 19 years and Ellen 17 years.
I can't make out the forth name down, which I believe is a male because when daughter Jane died (also in 1875) the newspaper death notice said "third daughter of John Murray".
Can anyone read the name?
Thank you,
Marlene
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Brown (Kent/Australia)
Milbourne (Australia)
Orr (Renfrew/Fife/Australia)
Livingstone, Bryson, Hutton (Hamilton, Lanark)

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Re: Names of children in death registration help, please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 31 May 24 05:12 BST (UK) »
The fourth name looks like Jessie to me :-\

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Added - Did the third daughter reference exclude the daughter who has already died??

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Re: Names of children in death registration help, please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 31 May 24 07:02 BST (UK) »
Hi.

There are 2 named James.
First deceased and second aged 21 years.

I do not see a Jane.

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Re: Names of children in death registration help, please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 31 May 24 08:33 BST (UK) »


Is this the death of Jessie, the eldest daughter deceased?
Was John working at the railways?

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/204981275

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Re: Names of children in death registration help, please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 31 May 24 09:43 BST (UK) »
Death notices for Jessie Smith nee Murray, Jane Braddy nee Murray and Jane Murray nee Johnston.
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Re: Names of children in death registration help, please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 31 May 24 09:52 BST (UK) »
The fourth name looks like Jessie to me :-\

Kay

Added - Did the third daughter reference exclude the daughter who has already died??

Thanks, Kay
I have to admit it does look Jessie but I don't think it can be...  ???
The death notices make me think they didn't exclude the daughter who died.
Best (Sussex/Australia)
Brown (Kent/Australia)
Milbourne (Australia)
Orr (Renfrew/Fife/Australia)
Livingstone, Bryson, Hutton (Hamilton, Lanark)

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Re: Names of children in death registration help, please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 31 May 24 11:54 BST (UK) »
Could it be Josie?

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Re: Names of children in death registration help, please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 31 May 24 12:03 BST (UK) »
If you get the Victorian birth certificate for Ellen/Helen it should list previous issue.  That was how I found that my grandfather was number 11 and his older siblings.  I knew very little about them and mum only remembered a couple of names.  Many had died before she was born.
James -Victoria, Australia originally from Keynsham, Somerset.
Janes - Keynsham and Bristol area.
Heale/Hale - Keynsham, Somerset
Vincent - Illogan/Redruth, Cornwall.  Moved to Sculcoates, Yorkshire; Grass Valley, California; Timaru, New Zealand and Victoria, Australia.
Williams somewhere in Wales - he kept moving
Ellis - Anglesey

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Re: Names of children in death registration help, please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 31 May 24 13:28 BST (UK) »
I make the names to be

John  34 years
Jessie  deceased
Marion  27 years
Susie/Josie?  23 years
James  deceased
James 20 years
Daniel  19
Ellen  17 years
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