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Help with marriage cert
« on: Tuesday 18 June 24 16:41 BST (UK) »
Hi, Could someone please help me see what Marys mothers name is. I think father is James Canavan, miner but I'm unable to make out much else. Marriage was 1879, Edinburgh.
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Re: Help with marriage cert
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 16:45 BST (UK) »
I think her mother's maiden name is Brown and father's first name James

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Re: Help with marriage cert
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 16:53 BST (UK) »
I think her mother's maiden name is Brown and father's first name James

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Thank you, I was hoping for mother to be Ann Branagan or Brogan, back to the drawing board @ ;)

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Re: Help with marriage cert
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 21:35 BST (UK) »
Did Mary died young?

There is possible death entry for her on SP:

MARY CANAVAN or BERNARD
Age 42
Mother's maiden name BROWN
1897
695 / 48
Newbattle

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Re: Help with marriage cert
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 22:00 BST (UK) »
I can last find her in 1891 married to James Philip, 1901 James is a widow living with his brother.
Wonder why she would go back to Canavan tho?

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Re: Help with marriage cert
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 22:06 BST (UK) »
I can last find her in 1891 married to James Philip, 1901 James is a widow living with his brother.
Wonder why she would go back to Canavan tho?
Is this Mary on the 1871 census. Family headed up I think by James Canavan and Ann Brogan:

James Cannavan 53 coal miner b. Ireland
Ann Cannavan 48 b. Ireland
Thomas Cannavan 23 coal miner b. Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Sarah Cannavan 14 b. Bothwell, Lanarkshire 
Margaret Cannavan 9 b. Bothwell, Lanarkshire
Mary Cannavan 19 Grandaughter b. b. Bothwell, Lanarkshire

Address 13 Brick Row, Old Monkland Eastern District 

If this is Mary with grandparents, then her mother could well have had the surname of Brown. She could also be illegitimate and used her grandparents' names as her parents on her marriage registration. Maybe a mistake crept in when remembering grandmother's maiden name. Hard to say and supposition really for now.

Can't easily see the Canavans in 1861 so far to see whether Mary shows with them.

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Re: Help with marriage cert
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 22:10 BST (UK) »
I can last find her in 1891 married to James Philip, 1901 James is a widow living with his brother.
Wonder why she would go back to Canavan tho?

So James Bernard also died young? Have you checked the marriage entry for James Philip and Mary to see what showed for her parents?

Regarding her use of her maiden name, Scottish women never lost their legal right to use their maiden name. This is why deaths are listed under both her married and maiden surnames. Also grave inscriptions for married women often just show a woman's maiden name etc.

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Re: Help with marriage cert
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 22:14 BST (UK) »
Did Mary died young?

There is possible death entry for her on SP:

MARY CANAVAN or BERNARD
Age 42
Mother's maiden name BROWN
1897
695 / 48
Newbattle

Monica

Mary Bernard, husband of James Bernarn. Parents were James Canavan and Ann Brown so it would seem like she is my Mary, thank you

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Re: Help with marriage cert
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 22:16 BST (UK) »
There is a second marriage registration for Mary with the same reference of 1879 - 695 / 10 - Newbattle.

Looks like husband James is registered on his marriage as both Philip and Bernard.

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