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Marriage of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily Townsend 1892
« on: Friday 12 July 24 22:13 BST (UK) »
Grandfathers birth certificate shows his father as Benjamin James Gregory (railway signalman) and his mother as Emily Gregory (formally Townsend). Censuses from 1871 to 1891 show Henry D Townsend having a daughter Emily Townsend (born approx 1870). BMD shows that Benjamin James Gregory born 1870 and married Emily Townsend 1892 (West Bromwich Dec 6b 1235). I have Emily’s birth certificate showing her birth on the 28/10/1869 and father is Henry Daniel Townsend. I sent for that marriage certificate. All of Benjamin James’s details are correct. Emily’s name and age are correct but her father is named as George (a bricklayer). I cannot find any George Townsend living in Warwickshire or Staffordshire but there is a Henry Daniel Townsend. On Ancestry, all the trees have Emily as the daughter of Henry Daniel and Benjamin James as her husband. I must have either the wrong birth certificate for Emily or the name of her father is wrong on the marriage certificate. Can anyone help unravel the mystery?
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leicestershire - freestone, barwell, adkin, hart, hartopp, laxton, gibbins, riley
staffordshire - gregory, townsend, westwood, martin, southam
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Re: Marriage of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily Townsend 1892
« Reply #1 on: Friday 12 July 24 22:24 BST (UK) »
What is Emily’s address at the marriage?
Who are the witnesses?

Added…Henry is never a Bricklayer that I can see

Added further…what is place of birth on the birth cert you have?

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Re: Marriage of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily Townsend 1892
« Reply #2 on: Friday 12 July 24 23:01 BST (UK) »
1921 place of birth is Sparkbrook b c 1873

There is this birth
TOWNSEND, EMILY       ASBURY 
GRO Reference: 1873  J Quarter in KINGS NORTON  Volume 06C  Page 442

Thomas George Townsend married Lucy ASTBURY
He’s an engine fitter
But later censuses he is a labourer.

1881 they have Emily born Sparkbrook and Thomas George is just George.

If he was labouring for a bricklayer, then she might have ‘elevated’  his occupation

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Re: Marriage of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily Townsend 1892
« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 July 24 23:01 BST (UK) »
Is this the correct family?

1911 Emily
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW7T-8ZT
1911 Benjamin   * image says Benj.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW71-62L
1901
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSQ1-GWJ
1921 census shows Emily age 48 years 2 months born Sparkbrook, Warwickshire.


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Re: Marriage of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily Townsend 1892
« Reply #4 on: Friday 12 July 24 23:13 BST (UK) »
This is the 1881 census referenced earlier

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27F-14J3

In 1871 among others is a daughter Rebecca.
She married Charles Brookes
And in 1901 George is with them and is a builders labourer.

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Re: Marriage of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily Townsend 1892
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 July 24 23:27 BST (UK) »
Emily TOWNSEND married at Edgbaston in 1895 to Edwin WESTON.  Her father Henry TOWNSEND a groom, and witness was Henry Daniel TOWNSEND.

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Re: Marriage of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily Townsend 1892
« Reply #6 on: Friday 12 July 24 23:33 BST (UK) »
This is the 1881 census referenced earlier

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27F-14J3

In 1871 among others is a daughter Rebecca.
She married Charles Brookes
And in 1901 George is with them and is a builders labourer.

1881 census there’s a daughter named Clara

Clara Townsend age 23 father George occ bricklayer
Marriage 14 Aug 1898 Sparkbrook, Christ Church
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Re: Marriage of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily Townsend 1892
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 July 24 10:33 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for the information. I now think that I have the wrong birth certificate for Emily townsend. All the information I have from her marriage to Benjamin James is correct. I found her in 1911 in the hospital census which led me to find the child that had died. I will have to start again on the Townsend branch of the family. Thank you all once again.
regards Allan
Shropshire - Arton
Lancashire - wareing, salts, clements, jackson,rutherford, wilkinson
leicestershire - freestone, barwell, adkin, hart, hartopp, laxton, gibbins, riley
staffordshire - gregory, townsend, westwood, martin, southam
warwickshire - southam, mousley