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Help requested - short Latin text from 1588.
« on: Wednesday 07 August 24 01:18 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I would (once again) be grateful for any comments/edits on the attached transcriptions from Latin of a document in Cheshire Archives. Its introduction states it is, “copied out of a broade Booke of Parchment which book sometimes belonged to Marche King of Armes in the tyme of King Edward the 4. After the conquest but now in this present year of our Lord 1588, remayneth in the hands of Robert Cooke Esquire Clarencieux King of Arms and Principal Herald for the South coast of his Realm of England”.

My attempts for entries 26 and 27 are below. For interest/reference, my interpretation is also included but for the moment my main focus is getting the transcriptions and Latin correct - especially the last two lines of number 26. After that, I am hoping the folks on the heraldry forum will be able to help me fully understand them.

My transcription:
“26. Berkenhed quarterly in the first quarter A. an [annulet] o. between 3 garbs, s. In
the second A xxed per [?] pale on the dexter side, 3 [fleur de lys], s, on the sinister a
blowing horne, s, a label of 6 points, s, on that, 2, quarter xxx 3 a
xx, 2, the 4 as the 1 Birkhet de Crowton, in Ecclesia de parva Budworth”.

My translation effort:
‘26. Berkenhed, quarterly. In the first quarter: Argent, an annulet, Or, between 3 garbs, Sable. In
the second, Argent, xxed per [?] pale on the dexter side, 3 fleur-de-lys, Sable, on the sinister a
blowing [i.e. bugle/hunting] horn, Sable, a label of 6 points, Sable, on that, 2, quarter xxx 3 a
xx, 2, the fourth as the first. Birkenhead of Crowton, in Little Budworth church’.

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My transcription:
“27. Crowton. A. a. /\. G. betw. 3. crowes [?]. s. on the. /\ . 3. [crescents] . A.”

My translation effort:
‘27. Crowton. Argent, a chevron, Gules, between three crows, Sable, on the Chevron, three crescents, Argent’.

Thanks in advance for any and all comments and contributions.

Simon
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.

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Re: Help requested - short Latin text from 1588.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 August 24 06:22 BST (UK) »
From the first image:

...the second - A p(ar)ted p(er) pale...

The word you are missing further down is the.

So:  ...6 poyntes .S. ov(er) that . 2 quarter the . 3... etc

Note ov(er) not on for this one.  That's why it has the upwards sweeping flourish.

I'm way out of time to do more now but will look again later.

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Re: Help requested - short Latin text from 1588.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 August 24 10:58 BST (UK) »
Hi, Horselydown,

It looks like you are an early riser and I am a night owl.

Anyway, thank you for looking at this so quickly. These and any further comments are really appreciated.

ATB

Simon
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.

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Re: Help requested - short Latin text from 1588.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 August 24 15:33 BST (UK) »
I'm a night owl too Simon but I live in Australia.

In the second image, Crowes is correct.

I think that covers everything which was uncertain in the writing from numbers 26 and 27.

I have no expertise in the symbols.


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Re: Help requested - short Latin text from 1588.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 August 24 23:12 BST (UK) »
Hi, horselydown,

TVM for your help once again.

I have worked out the rest at the end and so am now composing my questions for the heraldry board.

ATB

Simon
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.