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Will from late-1400s - need help with a few words + Probate clause
« on: Thursday 08 August 24 20:12 BST (UK) »
Hi, Rootschatters,

I'm currently working on three Wills from the mid-1400s and need help with a few words in the bodies of the Wills as well as with all probate clauses.  Any help is greatly appreciated.

Lastly, is this Will from the 1487.  I've attached three screenshots. The first one contains only one word shown in different incarnations.  I'm reading this as "profilled" i.e. profiled.  What are your thoughts?

The second one also contains only one word.  It's the name of a female and it is only given once in this Will.  This one has me stumped.

The third screenshot is the probate clause. 

In all cases, I have highlighted the problematic words in yellow.
CRN-Hocking
DVN-Bickle.Doble.Harris.Hill.Nrthcte
KEN-Austen.Bodeker.Collard.Dodd.Duncan.Eaton.Gregry.Hammnd.Herman.Hills.Hodgs.Ivysn.
James.Kemp.Milstd.Nut.Owlet.Ruck.Spilet.Terry.Tilby.Thmsn.Walker
SOM-Baker.Clatworthy.Linton.Parker.Smith.Stone.Twose
ABD-Barclay.Cruickshank.McKenzie.Shepherd.Club
LKS-Douglas.Gunn.Turner
MLN-Dicks/Dickson.Duff.Lindsay.Young
SHI-Bain.Cluness.Fordyce.Gray.Petrie
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Re: Will from late-1400s - need help with a few words + Probate clause
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 August 24 20:28 BST (UK) »
The woman's name is Cicele or Cecily.
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Re: Will from late-1400s - need help with a few words + Probate clause
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 August 24 22:54 BST (UK) »
From the probate clause ...

sc(ri)ptoris lond' (= scrivener of London)

compoto calculo sive rac(i)ocinio (= account, calculation or reckoning)

In the main text, I agree with 'profiled' (in various spellings), probably meaning 'edged'.

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Re: Will from late-1400s - need help with a few words + Probate clause
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 August 24 18:43 BST (UK) »
Hi, Vance,

Thank you for deciphering the name Cecily.  That is a great help. 
CRN-Hocking
DVN-Bickle.Doble.Harris.Hill.Nrthcte
KEN-Austen.Bodeker.Collard.Dodd.Duncan.Eaton.Gregry.Hammnd.Herman.Hills.Hodgs.Ivysn.
James.Kemp.Milstd.Nut.Owlet.Ruck.Spilet.Terry.Tilby.Thmsn.Walker
SOM-Baker.Clatworthy.Linton.Parker.Smith.Stone.Twose
ABD-Barclay.Cruickshank.McKenzie.Shepherd.Club
LKS-Douglas.Gunn.Turner
MLN-Dicks/Dickson.Duff.Lindsay.Young
SHI-Bain.Cluness.Fordyce.Gray.Petrie
ASSISTANCE PROVIDED HERE IS FROM MY OWN DIRECT EXPERIENCE & NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS LEGAL ADVICE


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Re: Will from late-1400s - need help with a few words + Probate clause
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 August 24 18:51 BST (UK) »
Hi, Bookbox,

Thank you for deciphering the probate clause.  That is a great help. 

Thank you also for adding your comment regarding the much repeated "profill" word from the Will text.  Sometimes, I suffer from mental block!  I just couldn't think of what "profill" would represent, but your suggestion of "edged" makes perfect sense.
CRN-Hocking
DVN-Bickle.Doble.Harris.Hill.Nrthcte
KEN-Austen.Bodeker.Collard.Dodd.Duncan.Eaton.Gregry.Hammnd.Herman.Hills.Hodgs.Ivysn.
James.Kemp.Milstd.Nut.Owlet.Ruck.Spilet.Terry.Tilby.Thmsn.Walker
SOM-Baker.Clatworthy.Linton.Parker.Smith.Stone.Twose
ABD-Barclay.Cruickshank.McKenzie.Shepherd.Club
LKS-Douglas.Gunn.Turner
MLN-Dicks/Dickson.Duff.Lindsay.Young
SHI-Bain.Cluness.Fordyce.Gray.Petrie
ASSISTANCE PROVIDED HERE IS FROM MY OWN DIRECT EXPERIENCE & NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS LEGAL ADVICE