Trying to help a friend find a person

[hamali]

Hi There,

OK, here goes, I'm trying to trace my grans gran. I have a tree underway on Ancestry, and have found my grans mum, ALICE MARY ISAACS, born 14/1/1886 in Canning Town, London. He mother was MARY ISAACS, no father on the birth certificate. I can find Alice on the 1901 census as a servant at 15, but I can't find her on the 1891 census. Alice's baptism form names her as ALICE MARY WEBB ISAACS.
Ancestry keeps throwing a Joseph B Isaacs up as a possible father, but I think thats wrong, as on the census the birth info for the child is wrong.

Thanks for any help on finding her in 1891

 

[wivenhoe]

"ALICE MARY ISAACS, born 14/1/1886 in Canning Town, London"

Can you list all the information on this birth certificate please.

[HistoricalGenealogy]

...but I can't find her on the 1891 census. Alice's baptism form names her as ALICE MARY WEBB ISAACS.

According to her baptism, it seems she was a illegitmate daughter of Mary Isaacs. Lambeth, Surrey, England

[Kay99]

On the baptism image the father's name Charles is crossed out??

[trish1120]

Mother Mary may have married after 1886 and 1891 they are under her new married name.

[rosie99]

The birth registration also mentions Webb

ISAACS, ALICE  MARY WEBB    - 
GRO Reference: 1886  March Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 133
 

[brigidmac]

A surname was often thrown in to indicate birth father . Was there a Mr WEBB. In the vicinity who could be likely candidate?
Maybe Mary ISAACS took him to court to obtain maintenance you may be lucky enough to find a newspaper report or an affiliation order .

DNA could show if there are any WEBB  connections

[rosie99]

The address on the baptism is 26 Rutland Street.  Have you eliminated the Isaacs family living at no 28 in 1901 as being related somehow.

John 45. Sorry that should read Ivo see later posts
William H 13
Winifred 10
Jane 47 (Sister)

They were also there in 1891 with Johns wife Sarah A

[Cas (stallc)]

Mary Isaacs
Marriage Age   22
Birth Date   abt 1866
Marriage or Bann Date   2 Apr 1888
Marriage or Bann Place   Bishopstone, St John, Wiltshire
Father   Henry Isaacs
Spouse   Tom Musselwhite
Witness - Ivo & Elizabeth Isaacs

1891 Bishopstone, Wiltshire
Tom Musselwhite 28   Head
Mary Musselwhite   25   Wife
Alice M Musselwhite 5   Daughter - no birth reg for this Alice M in Wilton reg district
Winifred E Musselwhite 5 mths   Daughter
Alfred E Brown 22   Boarder

Isaac/s parents/siblings can be found in area on census 1861/1871, not searched others.

Alice married in this area to Sidney H Lanham in 1916. Witness Percival Musslewhite (sibling). No father named at marriage, but going by baptism image it is likely a Charles Webb, as mentioned.

Cas