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Offline Pelican

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Rose and Lily Fry Isle of Wight
« on: Sunday 01 September 24 09:34 BST (UK) »
Can anyone date this old photo please? Will be pre 1914 I would think.

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Re: Rose and Lily Fry Isle of Wight
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 September 24 16:32 BST (UK) »
Not an expert but will guess at late Victorian.

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Re: Rose and Lily Fry Isle of Wight
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 September 24 16:58 BST (UK) »
Is this the family in 1901 census, mother & daughter, may help in dating picture.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSX8-4M4

HARDY, LILY  MAY     mmnFRY 
GRO Reference: 1893  S Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT  Volume 02B  Page 595

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Re: Rose and Lily Fry Isle of Wight
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 September 24 09:47 BST (UK) »
Thank you both of you.

Yes, I have that census and  Lily is 7 years old then. 18 in the 1911. She married in 1914. She could have had a photo taken later of course.  She was 21 in 1914. that could have been the occasion of a studio photo.

Yet as japeflakes says the fashion seems to be Victorian.   

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Re: Rose and Lily Fry Isle of Wight
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 September 24 00:42 BST (UK) »
Hi,

This looks like the hat Lily is wearing,

http://www.photodetective.co.uk/ClothCap.html

and here it looks most fashionable in 1906.

https://www.vintag.es/2023/01/edwardian-hats.html


But I think that the clothes look Edwardian and it could be as late as 1914.

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Daisy

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Re: Rose and Lily Fry Isle of Wight
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 September 24 10:37 BST (UK) »
I agree with Daisy. it helps if you could post the whole photo including the back. It looks like a postcard photo.
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Re: Rose and Lily Fry Isle of Wight
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 September 24 12:23 BST (UK) »
Late Edwardian. The large almost brimless hats were a short lived style
from around 1907-10.
The girl on the right has a shorter skirt indicating she's an older teen
probably around 17.
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Re: Rose and Lily Fry Isle of Wight
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 September 24 22:28 BST (UK) »

If it is a studio photo costumes and clothes could be borrowed so it's possible that the hats and/or stoles were a prop.

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Re: Rose and Lily Fry Isle of Wight
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 07 September 24 01:54 BST (UK) »
Thank you everyone, your interest is appreciated.

I did wonder about studio props too, but I would imagine they would be sort of close to fashion. The stoles are the same, so perhaps. Those studio photos were often an important occasion.

The photo is not on a postcard but in its own little photo folder. It must have been special and carefully kept. That is why I suspect photo studio. No name of studio though, there often was.

Love those hats, Incredible to wear I would think. Thanks for those links, Daisypetal. I enjoyed looking at those.

The concensus of opiniom seems  to be late Edwardian. It would seem so.

Thank you very much everyone.

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