missing in 1861

[wilcoxon]

Can anyone help please. I have a family in 1851 but can`t find all of them in 1861
The only one I have found is a married son, but where are the rest, I have tried Familysearch but still no luck. I don`t know if they would be in  missing areas. Names in CAPITALS are the line I am following  and am OK with those, they were also blacksmiths.
Thank you

Ancestry
1851 Llanhilleth, Monmouthshire, all children found have mmn Williams
Thomas Evans 45 Blacksmith b  Mynyddyslwyn, Monmouthshire
Mary Evans 44 b Aberystruth, Monmouthshire
Mary Evans 20 b Aberystruth, Monmouthshire
EDWARD EVANS 18  blacksmith b Llanhilleth, Monmouthshire
James Evans 8 b  Llanhilleth, Monmouthshire
Rachel Evans 6 b Llanhilleth, Monmouthshire mmn Williams
Gwenllian Evans 4 b Llanhilleth, Monmouthshire mmn Williams
Maryann Evans 3 b Llanhilleth, Monmouthshire
Thomas Evans 1 Mo b Llanhilleth, Monmouthshire

Ancestry
1861 84 Dolphin Street St Woolos  Newport Monmouthshire  all born Newport
Edward Evans 29 blacksmith
Martha Evans 28 nee Jones
Ann Evans 8
William Evans 6
* JACOB EVANS 3 *
Elizabeth Evans 1


 

[CaroleW]

As you know - large parts of the Welsh 1861 are missing which may be the reason you can't find them

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Wales_Missing_Census_Records

[Gadget]

The 1861 census is notorious for missing pieces and parts of pieces. Have you checked the missing pieces  here~

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/census-for-england-wales-and-scotland-missing-pieces

Gadget

sorry Carole - I was typing and didn't see you there 

[wilcoxon]

I did  look and Monmouthshire isn't on that list.

There's enough of them in the family but even individually I can't find them except Edward.

Thanks

[Gadget]

Where were they in 1871?

[Gadget]

Might be some here ~

1861

3984   Monmouthshire   Monmouth   Dingestow (2)   Garway (Herefordshire)   I
3984   Monmouthshire   Monmouth   Dingestow (2)   Skenfreth   I
4010   Monmouthshire   Pontypool   Pontypool (1)   Mamhilad   I
4013   Monmouthshire   Newport   Caerleon (1)   Goldcliff   I
4014   Monmouthshire   Newport   Caerleon (1)   Llangattock   I
4014   Monmouthshire   Newport   Caerleon (1)   Kemeys Inferior   I
4014   Monmouthshire   Newport   Caerleon (1)   Tredunnock   I
4014   Monmouthshire   Newport   Caerleon (1)   Llanhennock   I
4014   Monmouthshire   Newport   Caerleon (1)   Llanmartin   I
4014   Monmouthshire   Newport   Caerleon (1)   Magor: Redwick   I
4014   Monmouthshire   Newport   Caerleon (1)   Witson a.k.a Whitson   I
4014   Monmouthshire   Newport   Caerleon (1)   Nash   I
4015   Monmouthshire   Newport   Caerleon (1)   Caerleon   M
4022   Monmouthshire   Newport   Newport (2)   St Woollos & Newport   M
4024   Monmouthshire   Newport   St Woollos (3)   Michaelstoneyvedw Llanvedw (Glamorganshire)   I
4025   Monmouthshire   Newport   St Woollos (3)   Bettws   I
4025   Monmouthshire   Newport   St Woollos (3)   Malpas   I
4025   Monmouthshire   Newport   St Woollos (3)   Henllis   I
4025   Monmouthshire   Newport   St Woollos (3)   Risca   I
4025   Monmouthshire   Newport   St Woollos (3)   Llanvihangel Llantarnam   I
4027   Monmouthshire   Newport   Mynyddyslwyn (4)   Machen: Upper & Lower Machen

[wilcoxon]

Where were they in 1871?
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I can`t find the family in Llanhilleth, Monmouthshire from 1851 in 1871 either, after 20 Years the parents have probably died  and children moved on. I`m not finding deaths for Thomas and Mary so far.
As for Edward, I struggled to find him in 1871 on Ancestry but he showed up on family Search.
I still can`t find him on Ancestry, even using all the family names.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDXZ-JFM

1871  Canton, Glamorgan, Cardiff  Family Search
Event Place   Canton, Glamorgan, Wales, United Kingdom
Sub-District   Cardiff
Enumeration District   24
Entry Number   17

Edward Evans 39 blacksmith b Newport  Monmouthshire
Martha Evans 38 b Newport
Ann Evans 18 b Newport
William Evans 17 blacksmith  b Newport
Jacob Evans 14 blacksmith b Newport
Elizabeth Evans 10 b “ scholar
John Evans 9 b “
Thomas Evans 4 b “

[Cas (stallc)]

Mistranscribed as Evanson on Anc...

1871 Canton, Cardiff

All born Newport Monmouth

Edward Evanson 39 Head, Blacksmith
Martha Evanson 38 Wife
Ann Evanson 19 Daughter
William Evanson 17 Son
Jacob Evanson   14   Son
Elizabeth Evanson 10 Daughter
John Evanson 9 Son
Thomas Evanson 4 Son

Edward states b Newport 1861/1871 no mention of Llanhilleth, I think the 1851 is not the correct family.  A number of trees have this family, but most have father Edward John Evans b Dublin. Mother Elizabeth, which also seems a stretch.

Parents married 1851 Newport best to check his fathers name and occupation to take out guesswork.

Good luck

Added -  red writing but posted.

[wilcoxon]

Just found this. It seems to match .
There is a probate record for a Thomas Evans late of Aberbeeg, Monmouth, Blacksmith  who died 28 July 1867.
Mary Evans widow seems not to have dealt with administration in 1868  and Edward Evans blacksmith of Aberbeeg was granted administration again in 1874. 

Aberbeeg is a village which lies in both Blaenau Gwent and Caerphilly County Borough, in Wales, within the historic boundaries of Monmouthshire. It is part of the community of Llanhilleth.

Now the death ages don`t match, am I looking at the wrong district.
EVANS, THOMAS       79 
GRO Reference: 1867  S Quarter in MONMOUTH  Volume 11A  Page 19

EVANS, THOMAS       46 
GRO Reference: 1867  S Quarter in MONMOUTH  Volume 11A  Page 17