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Street name in Soho
« on: Monday 11 November 24 15:57 GMT (UK) »
Attached (hopefully) is a street address from a baptismal record from the 1820's.  I am not sure what the Street is. It is obviously "Richmond xxx", but what is the xxx?

The address in the baptismal record for the child preceding this one was "Dean St" (Soho).  The address in the baptismal record for the following child was also "Dean St."  So Richmond xxx is obviously a side alley off Dean St.

I note, on modern maps of Soho, Richmond Mews running off Dean St., but it is certainly not "Mews" in the image - something more like "Beys".  Was there another street called "Richmond" something?  Or were Mews also called "Beys"?  Or have I completely misunderstood?

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Re: Street name in Soho
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 November 24 16:19 GMT (UK) »
Just discovered "Richmond Buildings" on Dean St.  I think that must be it, even though it doesn't look much like "Bdgs" to me!
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Re: Street name in Soho
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 November 24 16:58 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that's all I can see in Pigot's 1825 Directory of London. The number 37 refers to its map, but the scale is too small for it to be of any use. I can just about convince myself that the register says Bds if the last letter is a long s.
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Re: Street name in Soho
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 November 24 20:07 GMT (UK) »
Local area in 1746...
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Street name in Soho
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 November 24 21:35 GMT (UK) »
In 1846 a famous diarist by the name of Nathaniel Bryceson livied at Richmond Buildings. There are many threads on rootschat following his diary which is held by and was seriaised online by Westminster Archives some years ago.

From the descriptions he gives of his residence at that time, it seems like it was a tenement, with many residents renting rooms in the building. Accomodation sounded very basic - residents all seemed to have decent jobs. Nataniel was a clerk from a middle class family.

Unsure if that would have been the same demographic as it relates to your ancestors twenty years earlier.

Just to add that “Richmond Buildings” still exists today though the buildings are more recent.

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Re: Street name in Soho
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 November 24 07:22 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, everyone, for your replies and suggestions.  I'm sure it must be Richmond Buildings. 

My 4x G-grandfather was a carpenter/joiner.  Married in 1815, he and his wife had children in 1816, 1819, 1824, and 1828 (at least).  Soho was at the centre of the 1831 cholera epidemic, and the 1819 child (my 3x G-grandfather) next turns up marrying in Leeds in 1839.  I'm trying to work out if the whole family fled London to escape, or whether he was the only one who moved north.  Problem is, the surname was Carter, so it's very difficult to track them down with confidence, but I suspect that the youngest child didn't survive, and possibly neither did the mother (cholera or childbirth?).  The 1839 marriage certificate implies the father, George, was still alive, but where???
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Re: Street name in Soho
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 November 24 08:06 GMT (UK) »
The child born 1824, Mary Ann Elizabeth, died in infancy.  On her burial record from St Anne, Soho, her abode is much easier to read:

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Re: Street name in Soho
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 12 November 24 09:13 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much for this - missed this record!
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