Would anyone be willing to help me find my family?

[sparrett]

In 1881 James RYAN is living with his wife Jane and infant daughter Elizabeth at 23 Wright Street.

He states born in Liverpool, Dock labourer.


RYAN, ELIZABETH  JANE  mms   MELLOR 
GRO Reference: 1880  J Quarter in
OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 666


Sue

[erinkrodgers]

Thank you!  I do believe that Richard and James must be the same person.  Richard was probably the baptismal name.    Sue, thank for the information regarding their residence in 1881.  You guys are super sleuths!  I do believe I have the correct James/Richard in my tree, married to Jane Mellor.  I deleted him and started from scratch.  He does not match up with other spouses.  I believe Michael Ryan sometimes went by John.   

If anyone is able to find Mother Catherine Murray Ryan and her daughters Ellen and Catherine, I would be so grateful!  I do believe Catherine Murray Ryan may have passed shortly after her husband Michael, but I cannot find any definitive documentation.

[heywood]

In 1881 James RYAN is living with his wife Jane and infant daughter Elizabeth at 23 Wright Street.

He states born in Liverpool, Dock labourer.


RYAN, ELIZABETH  JANE  mms   MELLOR 
GRO Reference: 1880  J Quarter in
OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 666


Sue

Sue,
May I just correct this please. It is a great find but the address is wrong.

1881 3599 /8/9
James and Jane are at 1 house, 13 Court which is the address that Jane gave on her marriage.
There are several people at that address including Mary J Ryan, 36 yrs, Hawker, b Birkenhead, Cheshire.
Too many Ryans.

Mark Ryan is at 23, Wright Street in 1881 as mentioned earlier.

Added
The baptism of Elizabeth in April 1879, has the Court address. There is only one Godparent, Maria O’Connor.

[heywood]

There are baptisms for two other children to James and Jane.
Mary Jane, 1887
James Edward, 1889
Both with a Miller Godmother.

[sparrett]

Happy to be corrected so we have it right.

There was a marriage in Liverpool for a Catherine RYAN to James LOPDELL,
Same church as James was married. 1874

 May be of interest

Sue

 

[heywood]

Catherine Ryan of Vauxhall Road married Thomas Lopdell in 1870.
Her parents - John and Catherine Ryan and a witness Margaret Ryan.

1871 3761 /124/54
Catherine Lopdale , 23 yrs (abt 1848) b Liverpool.

[sparrett]

Yes. I saw the full record and the 1881 census which records her as a bit too old to be the right lass. 
Sue

[heywood]

I believe Michael Ryan sometimes went by John.   

If anyone is able to find Mother Catherine Murray Ryan and her daughters Ellen and Catherine, I would be so grateful!  I do believe Catherine Murray Ryan may have passed shortly after her husband Michael, but I cannot find any definitive documentation.

Do you have any records to show him as John?

The only Catholic burial, I can see, shortly after Michael’s is Catherine Ryan, 53 yrs (b abt 1812)  in 1865 - address 9ct, Maghull Street.

[erinkrodgers]

I believe Michael Ryan sometimes went by John.   

If anyone is able to find Mother Catherine Murray Ryan and her daughters Ellen and Catherine, I would be so grateful!  I do believe Catherine Murray Ryan may have passed shortly after her husband Michael, but I cannot find any definitive documentation.

Do you have any records to show him as John?

The only Catholic burial, I can see, shortly after Michael’s is Catherine Ryan, 53 yrs (b abt 1812)  in 1865 - address 9ct, Maghull Street.

Hi there!  I found that when they were in Ireland there was a John listed at his address in Cashel Tipperary, yet I cannot find any brother of his named John.  His father was John and his son, my 2nd great grandfather was John.    I am not sure if there were possible errors on the census or directories sometimes?  I do know that one of my aunts said our Irish family would sometimes go by their middle name rather than their given name (I guess since they all had the same names  )