Griffith Family of Lloftwen, Pengelli, now Coedpoeth - 1851 census?

[CheshireSteve]

You can get a digital image of the Marriage Bond for £2.00.

Griffiths, Edward, wid., Wrexham, Denbighshire to Smith, Sarah, sp., Wrexham, Denbighshire : 1778 Jan. 26.

You have send an email to the NLW and they send you an order form. You probably know that already.

It might help.

Email: enquiry@llgc.org.uk

No, I wasn't aware I could do that. Is it not something I can get online at Wrexham library?

Steve

[wilcoxon]

No, only available direct from NLW as they haven't been digitised like the wills.

[wilcoxon]

John Griffith was buried 2 March 1721 at Marchwiel. No abode given.
Bryn y Grog is mentioned in the will.

Clwyd FHS info.

Bryn y Grog Hall, Marchwiel. Constructed late C18 on the site of a building which had been on the site since at least 1700 when it was owned by Mrs Elis of Wrexham, Bryn-y-Grog Hall was bought by Philip Yorke of Erddig in 1773 from John Jones. It was the residence of John Edgeworth and later of Charles Menzies Holland the Victorian railway engineer and slate quarry owner.

[wilcoxon]

Going back to the Will.
John Griffith has a son William Jones.
His wife's name I couldn't work out but believe it is Ermin.

4 Feb 1702. Marchwiel
John Griffith yeo married Ermin Jones

[wilcoxon]

Ermine Griffiths buried 23 February 1754.

[wilcoxon]

Ermine Jones baptised Ruabon 24 April 1674. Father Edward.

She lived to a good age if it's the same lady.

[wilcoxon]

http://hdl.handle.net/10107/109300

The will of ' Ermni ' Griffiths. 
It's a nice one , leaving brass pots , feather bed , bolster, curtains etc. 

[wilcoxon]

Looking at the will of Ermin Griffith, check out the names of her children,  most have the surname Jones.
Does this indicate that they were born before she married John Griffith.
JOHN JONES . This is the name of the person who sold Bryn Y Grog to Philip Yorke c 1772.

The will needs looking at carefully as it's possible that she had a son John Jones or brother John Jones.
Ermine also mentions the late Mr? Robinson of Gwersyllt.
The Robinson family owned loads of land around the area,

There are a few wills for the Robinson family,  but some are only the Bonds.

There's a few early documents in Denbighshire Archives relating to Bryn Y Grog.

Excuse the one line posts, I'm using a tablet and it's a bit tricky with a few pages open at the same time. 😁

[wilcoxon]

Been searching for Ermin before her marriage without much luck..
Some records found are not positive.

Ruabon 1709 5 August
Ermin Jones xdd Kenrick buried ,(Christionydd)


Marchwiel 4 Feb 1702
John Griffith married Ermin Jones.
Was she a widow


1748 16 February. Ermine Griffith Bryn Y Grog made a will. She names.
Son John Jones.
Grand daughter Ermine Morris,? Davies?
Son Thomas Jones
Daughter Ermin Jones
Late Mr? Robinson Gwersyllt
There's a lot of money.
Why do her children have Jones as surnames.
 
Wrexham 31 February 1744 baptism
Ermin daughter of John Jones Pentre Vohn Newydd. Lab


Marchwiel 1750 23 October Ermine Jones daughter of John Jones and Elizabeth buried

 Marchwiel 23 February 1754
Ermine Griffith buried

I can't find any positive burials or wills for her sons.

The sale of Bryn y Grog by John Jones is intriguing though.