RSM of 3 Commando RAC John Duncan Allen awarded George Medal in July 1943

[CaroleW]

I wonder if mum Jessie died in Canada following the 1908 birth which would account for the Essex baptism in 1910

[*Sandra*]

Canadian Passenger Lists shows father William arriving with Alexander and Robert - going to Edmonton arriving 1 st July 1919 on the Scandanavian.

1921 census Edmonton Alberta -

William Allen   50   Head.  Widowed. Immigrated 1907. Salesman.
Alexander Allen 16 Son. Born 1905. Ireland. Packer.
Robert Allen 15 Son. Born 1906. Ireland.

These coyld be the brother of John Duncan Whyte Allen ?

Birth of Robert George Whyte Allen in Cork 1906

Robert George Whyte Allen Birth Quarter   Apr-May-Jun   1906 Cork, Ireland
Birth Registration Date   Jun 1906
Birth Registration Place   Ireland
Volume   5 Page   85

Birth of William Matthew Whyte Allen in Pewsey Wiltshire.

William Mathew Whyte Allen - Baptism Date   17 Jan 1904
Baptism Place   Ludgershall, Wiltshire.
Father   William Allen - Mother    Jessie May Allen

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

Canadian Passenger List - Going to Quebec 1907 (Allen family going to Canada prior to birth of John)



 

[*Sandra*]

Daughter of William/Sister of John - Catherine mentioned as next of kin on Canadian Attestation Papers.  Born 1898 Aldershot. Hampshire. Passed away 1992

Catherine May White Allen
Baptism Date   17 Mar 1898 Aldershot, Hampshire, England
Father    William Allen Allen
Mother    Jessie


Edmonton Journal
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Tue, 1 Dec 1992
Page 21

https://www.newspapers.com/article/edmonton-journal/162503683/

FIND A GRAVE

Catherine May Allen Hanson.

Wanham Cemetery
Wanham, Grande Prairie Census Division, Alberta.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/160802276/catherine-may-hanson

married 1921

Catherine M Allen
Marriage Date   1921 Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Spouse    John E Hanson
Certificate Number   179

1931 census    Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

John E Hanson 51 Head
Catherine M Hanson   33   Wife
John W Hanson 6 Son
Henry R Hanson 3 Son
Doris L Hanson 13 Daughter
Lily M Hanson 7 Daughter
Ruby M Hanson 5 Daughter
Daisy J Hanson 1 month Daughter

Sandra

Added photo on ancestry

[Andy J2022]

Assuming CaroleW's earlier find of his wife Mildred Elsie is the correct person, she died at 12 Dansie Court (today it's Dansie House), Compton Road, Colchester on 8 June 1995, which suggests the family may have moved back to that part of Essex. Sgt John Duncan Allen was living in Wivenhoe (about 3 miles South East of Colchester) in 1943 when he was awarded the George Medal.

I know you weren't asking about his military career but have you seen the Royal Armoured Corps enlistment record which states that he was transferred from the Royal Tank Regiment to the A Reserve 15 February 1933, when he would have been c. 25 years old? This suggests that he may have first joined up in around 1927 aged 18 on a 6 year engagement. He was obviously recalled for service once the war broke out. He was transferred to 3 Cdo on 7 July 1940 (he would have volunteered for this). At the end of the war he was demobbed to the Z Reserve on 15 December 1945.

[Andy J2022]

I assume that you've seen his entry in the Commando Association database which gives his last known location as Westbury, Wilts although no date is given. They also don't know when he died.

[*Sandra*]

Alexander Thomas Whyte Allen - 1905    Apr-May-Jun   Cork, Ireland
Birth Registration Date   Jun 1905 Birth Registration Place   Ireland
Volume   5 Page   79

Alberta Marriage -

Alexander T. W. Allen  - Marriage Date   1930
Marriage Place   Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Spouse    - Norma E. Darling
Certificate Number   1198

Divorce :-

The Vancouver Sun
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada 
Fri, 22 Oct 1937
Page 30

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-vancouver-sun/162504975/

British Columbia Death

Alexander Thomas Whyte Allen - Birth Year   abt 1906
Death Date   5 Feb 1989  (age 83 years)
Death Location   Surrey. British Columbia
Registration Number   1989-09-002150

Death Certificate :-

https://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/1b183e02-19b8-4b6b-b343-46cf6752414d

https://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/5dd31c92-6235-4e98-96ce-6a98d0ab2242

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

William Allen married Jessie May Wood - Pewsey. Wiltshire - registered June 1903  (15th June 1903) -

Marriages Jun 1903   
Allen    William        Pewsey    5a   369    
Wood    Jessie May        Pewsey    5a   369

Sandra

[mckha489]

Looking at it from another point of view - If the one who died in Liskeard is not the correct man, who is he?

surname recorded as Allan rather than Allen in burial reg & GRO index