Odd comment on Banns

[mezentia]

I have been looking specifically at the Bill/Bills family in Shropshire, and and am busy collecting the baptism, marriage, burial, banns and marriage licence data. At present, I'm looking at Banns and when done I hope to be able to correlate (most of) the banns with the corresponding marriage records. Quite a lot of the banns, following the dates of publication, have a line that says:

The first time, 2 time, The last time Out

An example is a:

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FSHROP%2FP256-A-5-1%2F127055&parentid=GBPRS%2FSHROP%2FBAN%2F33302%2F1

on FindMyPast.

The question is, what does the "Out" bit mean.

As a corollary, if there is no corresponding marriage entry in the PR, or post 1827 in the civil register, is it appropriate to assume that the marriage never took place? If the banns are published in an Anglican register, is it conceivable that the marriage was performed in a non-confomist church or chapel?

[AllanUK]

To me, it just confirms that the banns were read out three times.

[rosie99]

Looking for marriages to match that example page I have located transcripts for most that state Out on the banns

[gc1]

Google Search

"The provided text "The first time, 2 time, The last time Out reading of banns" refers to the ritual of publicly announcing a marriage proposal in a church service, known as reading the banns. Banns are typically read three Sundays before the wedding."

Sounds to me like an auctioneer when they say "Going, Going, Gone" with reference to you having three times to reply and that's it. 

[familydar]

I'd interpret it to mean either out of time (which is why you've not found the marriage) or out of parish (so you should be looking further afield).  If it's a lot of them it seems unlikely the couple didn't marry.  For the banns in question, were both parties otp?

Jane :-)

[AllanUK]

Looking at Thomas Gladman and Mary Davies -- they got married 4/9/1775, i.e. the day after he third reading of the banns. As stated above, the phrase just means that the banns were read three times.

(image courtesy of Find My Past)

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FSHROP%2FP256-A-3-1%2F284751&parentid=GBPRS%2FSHROP%2FMAR%2FX%2F33035%2F1

[mezentia]

Thank you for all the replies and suggestions. I think we can call this closed now. 

[BushInn1746]

To me, it just confirms that the banns were read out three times.

Also if you look at another Marriage at the top of the left page, following the comma is a cross, instead of "Out", so it would seem they were not read out a 3rd time there in respect of that couple.

1775
Thomas Rowe of ye Parish of St Chadd and
Mary Jones of this Parish


Mark