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One of the most famous of the Scottish witchcraft trials, with 11 executions (see first image below)

Ref: https://journals.socantscot.org/index.php/psas/article/download/6264/6233/6222
Note:  this link gives an instant download of a small pdf of the trial proceedings.

Agnes Drysdale was implicated in the 1662 Crook of Devon Witchcraft trials but apparently managed to avoid the fate which was meted out to 11 of her contempories:
viz.
........to be taken away to that place called Lamblaires bewest the Cruik Miln
the place of their execution tomorrow.... betwixt two and three hours in the afternoon,
and there to be strangled to the death by the hand of the hangman and thereafter their
bodies to be burnt to ashes for their trespasses. .....

The purpose of this post is to request help in understanding the 1622 marriage record of Agnes Drysdale & John Blackwood (see second image below). 

The record seems quite straightforward in that on 24 February 1622 John Blakwod of Coldrain is being married to Agnes Drysdell from dollar?? with maybe some witnesses (see red arrow), But towards the bottom of the image there seems to be another entry for Agnes Drysdell (see red underline) am I correct in seeing this second entry and if so what is it for?

Any help would be appreciated.

Some extracts from the trial proceedings are copied here for info:

PROCEEDINGS AGAINST ROBERT WILSON

........Lykeways that ye confessed ye had ane meeting with the Devil at the
Stanriegate, bewest the Cruick of Devon, where the Devil desired you to be
his servant and renounce your Baptism whilk ye refused to do at that time;
and that the Devil was riding on ane horse with fulyairt clothes and ane
Spanish cape and that there was with you at that meeting, Bessie Keil in
Gelvin, Marget Hoggan......Christian Young, spouse to James Bennet there;
Agnes Beveridge, in Broughty; Marget Beveridge, there; her sister Agnes
Drysdale, spouse to John Blackwood of Coldrain, riding on ane brown horse
and ane old black plaid about her
. This ye said to be on Wednesday about
Yule last, two hours before day, and that the Devil appointed them to meet
at the Bents of Balruddrie on Friday thereafter.


PROCEEDINGS AGAINST MARGARET HUGGON and JANET PATON

Ye both are indyted and accused for suamickle as by Divine law of the
Almighty God set down in his sacred word, especially in the 18 chap, of Deut.
and 30 chap, of Lev., made against the users and practisers of witchcraft,
sorcerie, charming and soothsaying, against the seekers of help or responses
of them, and in the 22 chap, of Exodus at the 18 verse, "Thou shalt not suffer
a witch to live" threatening and denouncing to the committers of such Devilish
practises the punishment of death........
.......Likeways ye confessed that Sathan desired you to renounce and forsake
your Baptism whilk ye lykways did, and immediately after your renunciation
of your baptism he gave you a new name.....
.......Lykeways ye confessed that Sathan had copulation with you, and that his
body was cold and his seed also, and said he was an uncouth man with black
cloathes and ane hood on his head........
.......Ye confessed lykways that ye was at another meeting with Sathan at the
Stanriegait bewest the Cruik of Devon with the foresaid six deceased women,
and Elspet Dempster spouse to James Beverage, Agnes Drysdale,
spouse to John Blackwood of Coldrain
...........


One of the reasons for concluding that Agnes Drysdell managed to escape being punished for witchcraft is that she appears to be an executor for her husband John Blackwood's estate after his death in 1668.

The final paragraph of his testament is copied below (see third inage):

Again, any help with the text here would be much appreciated

Many thanks & best regards

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Re: Crook of Devon Witchcraft trials 1662 - help with Scotlandspeople records
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 May 25 05:06 BST (UK) »
An attempt at the final paragraph.

Confirmationn
I Robert Bruce of Bordie Commissar of dunblain, Ratifie
& approves this p(re)s(en)t testam(en)t [ ] Provyding [ ] Lyke as the said Agnes
Drysdail exe(cut)rix foresaid hes sonne John Blackwood mess… in Culros
to.. Confirmed att dunblain  [ ] 16 Junij 1668



No doubt a Scottish expert will be along soon to fill in the gaps!
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Crook of Devon Witchcraft trials 1662 - help with Scotlandspeople records
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 May 25 18:30 BST (UK) »
Hi goldie61

Thank you very much for your help, it is much appreciated!

Best regards

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Re: Crook of Devon Witchcraft trials 1662 - help with Scotlandspeople records
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 May 25 23:53 BST (UK) »
As nobody else has taken up the baton ---

The long first clip is pretty difficult to read with all the bleed through from the page before, not to mention the spider scrawl!

ffebruarie 24 1622

The first 3 lines apply to John Blackwood and Agnis Drysdale

Proclaimed Jhone Blakwod in …dras and Agnes drysdea-
l of d.lor


The other two lines give the names of various people - I can see James W?sone at the end of the second line, and an Archibale  somebody at the start of the third line. Perhaps sponsors/witnesses. None of them seem to have the surname Blackwood or Drysdale.

The fourth line is the start of another entry -
Compeared jhone [   ] of C
'compeared' means 'appeared'.

Then several other entries about other people.

The bit at the bottom where Agnes is again mentioned says:
Just squeezed in above it is -
March 3 1622

Proclaimed (I think) Jhone Blackwod and Agnes drysdale
[        ] No Impediment.



It looks as though this is from the Session minutes?
It sounds like 2 of the 3 entries for the calling of the Banns.
Perhaps there’s another entry the week before - Feb 17.

I see you written 'John Blackwood of Coldrain', but I can't see those letters in the word giving his place of residence. I can't see an 'l' in there. There's a 'dra' near the end.

Agnes's place could be 'dolor'
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
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Re: Crook of Devon Witchcraft trials 1662 - help with Scotlandspeople records
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 May 25 01:32 BST (UK) »
Fantastic - thank you goldie61 for your help on these difficult Scotlandspeople documents.

I now understand why there are two entries on this page (one relates to banns) and also I see that you've identified 'of Dolor' as the place of residence for Agnes.

Her father owned lands in Sheardale, Dollar so that ties up that loose end very nicely.

Your point about Coldrain not being clear on this marriage record is certainly right - I had, sort of, assumed that place name based on the witchcraft article, the marriage being in the Parish of Fossoway and Tullibody and the fact that John Blackwood's will states he is a portioner of Wester Collindren [Coldrain]

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Re: Crook of Devon Witchcraft trials 1662 - help with Scotlandspeople records
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 11 May 25 14:48 BST (UK) »
Just to tidy up this thread, I've attached the complete ScotlandsPeople image of the will of John Blackwood where Wester Collindren [Coldrain] is mentioned as his place of residence.

Coldrain (or another variant thereof) may also be mentioned in the last two lines of the Will but as Goldie61 has pointed out this is not clear at all.

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Re: Crook of Devon Witchcraft trials 1662 - help with Scotlandspeople records
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 11 May 25 22:54 BST (UK) »
                         ffebruare 24 1622
Proclaimed Jhone blakwod in [            ] and Agnes drysdell
of dolor p[ro] primo

Can't be sure of where John Blackwood lived. Pro primo [tempore] is Latin for "for the first [time]". What follows immediately after begins with "Ite[m]..." and refers to a different matter.

The bit marked further down the page is from the minutes of the following session meeting.

                          march 3 1622
Procla[im]ed Jhone blakwod and Agnes drysdall p[ro]
secundo No Imp[e]dime[n]t

Pro secundo [tempore] is Latin for "for the second [time]". No doubt, later in the session records, it will state they were proclaimed pro tertio (= for the third time)

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Re: Crook of Devon Witchcraft trials 1662 - help with Scotlandspeople records
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 11 May 25 23:29 BST (UK) »

Confirmationn
I Robert Bruce of Bordie Commissar of dunblain, Ratifie
& approves this p(re)s(en)t testam(en)t [ ] Provyding [ ] Lyke as the said Agnes
Drysdail exe(cut)rix foresaid hes sonne John Blackwood mess… in Culros
to.. Confirmed att dunblain  [ ] 16 Junij 1668


line 1 Confirmatioun
line 3 the squiggles at either side of "Provyding" are just meaningless fillers and can be ignored.
lines 4-5 hes (= has) found Jon blackwood mess[enge]r in Culros
              Cau[tioner] Confirmed att dunblain the 6 Junij 1668

I think the date is the 6th rather than the 16th. What looks like a 1 is probably part of the J from the line above. Executors had to find a cautioner to act as surety for their carrying out their job properly.

As usual, goldie61 does all the hard work!

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Re: Crook of Devon Witchcraft trials 1662 - help with Scotlandspeople records
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 May 25 04:33 BST (UK) »

line 3 the squiggles at either side of "Provyding" are just meaningless fillers and can be ignored.


Well no wonder I couldn't fathom out what they meant!  ;)
Thanks GR2
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs