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Re: John LEWIS Born Abt 1844 Gloucestshire - Died 1901 Australia
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 05 July 25 09:26 BST (UK) »
Event: deaths
Registration number 8818 / 1885
Family name: LEWIS
Given name(s) Daniel
Place of event: HAWTH, Australia


Mother's name Alice EVANS
Father's Name: Unknown

Spouse: Eliza PARRAM

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John Lewis is recorded as living in 1885 at "Roseneath", Church Street  Richmond.

A few years earlier he was at “Toolamba Grove”, Weinberg Rd, Hawthorn.


When Daniel Lewis died, it seems he was farming at Toolamba / Mooroopna.

Mention here
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/113571374?searchTerm=%22Daniel%20Lewis%22%20AND%20Mooroopna

and here
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/269212388?searchTerm=%22Daniel%20Lewis%22%20AND%20Toolamba


Next question:- Did Daniel and John Lewis emigrate together, or one after the other?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: John LEWIS Born Abt 1844 Gloucestshire - Died 1901 Australia
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 05 July 25 09:57 BST (UK) »
Cannot post a snip from the marriage because this is Lookup board.  :-\

Marriage Date October 1894 Sydney
John Lewis, widower, born Gloucestershire, journalist, age 50
Parents - Daniel Lewis (Farmer) and Eliza Perram


Thanks for posting that, I was hoping that we could get the wife's name from either Johns marriage or death  ;D

I see that OP has been on here today, hopefully they will be back to respond to all of the information that has been found
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Re: John LEWIS Born Abt 1844 Gloucestshire - Died 1901 Australia
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 05 July 25 10:10 BST (UK) »
I see that OP has been on here today, hopefully they will be back to respond to all of the information that has been found.

Let's hope so!
A lot of new information about the Lewis family has been posted.  :)
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: John LEWIS Born Abt 1844 Gloucestshire - Died 1901 Australia
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 05 July 25 21:32 BST (UK) »


https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/80447240-F532-11E9-AE98-B7B96C4844FB?image=6
Daniel LEWIS left the bulk of his estate to daughter-in-law Caroline LEWIS, wife of son John. Will is written 6 Feb 1885.

Three Probate documents.....grandson John Donald LEWIS died, Sydney, 7 Sep 1889.
Children of Daniel LEWIS are son John, daughters Mary Ann and Eliza

I read that as :
The grandson, John Donald was the principal legatee. Or at least he receives a specific thing. (Which I cannot read) The remainder divided between John (the father) and his sisters. It was in trust to Caroline who was supposed to administer the estate on his behalf  but refused to, and then she voluntarily left the jurisdiction.

Does it imply Mary Ann & Eliza are also living in Australia?  It doesn’t tell us if they are married or not. Does it?




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Re: John LEWIS Born Abt 1844 Gloucestshire - Died 1901 Australia
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 05 July 25 23:27 BST (UK) »
Segment from the WILL
" ….. I bequeath unto my grandson John Donald Lewis, the son of the said John Lewis, my printing establishment with all the …? (apparel) connected therewith, as purchased by one from the said John Lewis, and my land at Mooroopna for his own sole use ….."


I did see a couple of mentions in the newspaper of John Lewis “Printer”.
A fire:-
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/63343976?searchTerm=%22John%20Lewis%20printer%22

 and death of 2nd daughter Annie Matilda
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/190601971?searchTerm=%22John%20Lewis%20printer%22
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: John LEWIS Born Abt 1844 Gloucestshire - Died 1901 Australia
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 06 July 25 00:00 BST (UK) »

Does it imply Mary Ann & Eliza are also living in Australia?  It doesn’t tell us if they are married or not. Does it?

John Lewis sister / Daniel Lewis’ daughter Eliza in the 1881 census is still living in Wantage Berkshire with her Uncle George Lewis, a china and glass merchant. She is working in her Uncle’s shop. George died in 1889.
In 1891 Eliza is still living with her Aunt Hester, working as an earthenware dealer.
By 1911 Eliza is still single and running a China and glass shop.
In 1921 Eliza is 76 and single and a glass and china dealer.

As an interesting aside, George Lewis married Hester PERIAM in 1843 in Coaley Gloucestershire.
At this stage I assume that Hester was sister to Eliza PERIAM the wife of Daniel Lewis.


Daniel Lewis’s first daughter sister, Mrs. Hannah Maria VIGIS (formerly Mary Ann Lewis) I can last see in 1881 living in Midsomer Norton, Somerset, age 68, A ministers widow.
Now we know from the TV that Midsomer is a dangerous place to be – murders there every week!  ;)

Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: John LEWIS Born Abt 1844 Gloucestshire - Died 1901 Australia
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 06 July 25 01:38 BST (UK) »
I thought Hannah Maria Vigis was Daniel’s sister. Bap 1812

Died 1885

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Re: John LEWIS Born Abt 1844 Gloucestshire - Died 1901 Australia
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 06 July 25 01:42 BST (UK) »
I thought Hannah Maria Vigis was Daniel’s sister. Bap 1812

Died 1885

Yes you are quite right. My poor fuddled brain is getting the Mary Anns twisted!  :)
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: John LEWIS Born Abt 1844 Gloucestshire - Died 1901 Australia
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 06 July 25 03:21 BST (UK) »
The PERIAM family is an interesting lot – the father John was a musical instrument maker
 [3 Periam sisters married 3 Lewis brothers]

John PERIAM (a musical instrument maker)
Married Rebecca BAILEY 30 Dec 1804 All Hallows Tottenham: Church Lane, Haringey, Middlesex

Children:-
•   Mary Ann PERIAM born 21 Sep 1805, bapt 14 June 1807 All Hallows Haringey [married Willliam LEWIS, and then Samuel SMITH]
•   Rebecca PERIAM born 15 May 1807, Bapt 14 June 1807 All Hallows Haringey
•   Hester PERIAM born 28 Jan 1810, baptised 25 Feb 1810 St Giles [married George LEWIS]
•   John PERIAM born 14 Jan 1812, bapt 14 June 1812 St Giles, Holborn
•   Eliza PERIAM born 27 March 1814 Baptised 15 May St Giles, Holborn [married Daniel LEWIS]
•   Caroline PERIAM Baptised 6 Aug 1815 St Giles, Holborn



Burial 16 Dec 1829 City Road Wesleyen Chapel
John Periam aged 55 (born abt 1774)

WILL of John Periam, musical Instrument Maker of No.29 Clarendon Street, Somers Town, Middlesex
Written 5 July 1823
Proved 22 Dec 1829
PROB 11/1764
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)