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Re: A Challenge for Rootschatters
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 September 05 13:30 BST (UK) »
I've just spoken to Sue Raftree, the RAF spokeswoman for this to see if there was any further information available. She's confirmed that both Kenenth Wakefield and Peter Sharman were unmarried. The only information is their place of birth as given in the article, and they were both born in 1922. They don't have any further information on Leonard Moss, except his wife's name which is on the CWGC site.

I've told Sue about Rootschat, and explained what we're doing, so hopefully she'll be dropping by to have a look. If Watermusic gets replies to the GR messages, I've told Sue we'll pass any info on.

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 22 September 05 13:32 BST (UK) »
I have e-mailed the bbc through the website to ask where they got the info from and if they could forward any info on to us.
Heres hoping..

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 22 September 05 14:03 BST (UK) »
I've posted this link on the Armed Forces board for our resident experts!
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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 22 September 05 14:17 BST (UK) »
I found the following death records.  there are the following Ethel Mary Robinson, some of the dates are way out but one of them may be his wife, if she didn't remarry of course.

Ethel Mary Robinson     Mar 1984     19 Sep 1917     Darlington     Durham
Ethel Mary Robinson    Dec 1984    29 Jun 1894    Warwick and Leamington    Warwickshire
Ethel Mary Robinson    Oct 1985    31 Dec 1904    Chester and Ellesmere Port    Cheshire
Ethel Mary Robinson    Aug 1987    28 Jul 1914    Chichester    West Sussex
Ethel Mary Robinson    Aug 1987    10 Oct 1907    Ealing    Greater London
Ethel Mary Robinson    May 1988    1917    Scunthorpe and Barton-upon-Humber    Humberside
Ethel Mary Robinson    Jun 1988    10 Jun 1900    Bradford    West Yorkshire
Ethel Mary Robinson    Jan 1988    22 Aug 1912    Yeovil    Somerset
Ethel Mary Robinson    May 1989    26 May 1908    Birkenhead    Merseyside
Ethel Mary Robinson    Sep 1989    24 May 1907    Gainsborough    Lincolnshire
Ethel Mary Robinson     Jun 1989     28 May 1897     East Dereham     Norfolk
Ethel Mary Robinson    Feb 1989    4 May 1926    Aylesbury Vale    Buckinghamshire
Ethel Mary Robinson    Jun 1989    3 Nov 1896    Waveney    Suffolk
Ethel Mary Robinson    May 1991    29 Nov 1900    Ewecross    North Yorkshire
Ethel Mary Robinson    Sep 1991    26 Feb 1913    Derby    Derbyshire
Ethel Mary Robinson    Nov 1996    21 Sep 1920    Stoke on Trent    Staffordshire
Mary Ethel Robinson    Apr 1984    1 Aug 1901    Halifax    West Yorkshire
Mary Ethel Robinson    Jan 1984    6 Nov 1913    Kings Lynn    Norfolk
Mary Ethel Robinson    Oct 1985    24 Dec 1902    Whitehaven    Cumbria
Mary Ethel Robinson    Mar 1993    1 Jul 1902    Poole    Dorset
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Re: A Challenge for Rootschatters
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 22 September 05 14:23 BST (UK) »
It said in the news article that Sgt Robinson was bn in Weston Super Mare, in Somerset. So maybe this is her

Ethel Mary Robinson    Jan 1988    22 Aug 1912    Yeovil    Somerset
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Re: A Challenge for Rootschatters
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 22 September 05 14:26 BST (UK) »
Poor Hubert Hedley seems to get his name mispelt all over the place!

I don't know how much time/money Sue Raftree/the RAF have to pursue this, but I'd say wills would be the way forward for the Robinsons at least - Hubert Hedley Robinson, OBE, I would say would be very likely to have had a will, which should list if there were any siblings of J.V. Robinson.

On the others:
The Times, Saturday, Mar 03, 1928; pg. 4; Issue 44832; col B  and The Times, Wednesday, Mar 28, 1928; pg. 5; Issue 44853; col A  record the divorce proceedings of George Owen Sharman and his wife Grace Evelyn Sharman, nee Rogers.  They had a son and two daughters, but George was said to have committed adultery with a Elena Josephina Carolina Gabrielson ('Gabriel', the listed mother of Peter Siegfried?), and in return he accused Grace of adultery with Mr Lawrence H. Bradshaw, artist, and Mr Austin Osmond Square.

A decree nisi was granted, with the care of the two youngest children given to the father (they had been living in the same house as George and Elena for some time.)

Is this the same man?  I can only find one George Owen Sharman birth on freebmd, 1871-1910, George Owen Sharman b. 1883, m. 1909 to Grace.  If this is him, then I guess Peter had at least three half-siblings, and maybe some full siblings.
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Re: A Challenge for Rootschatters
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 22 September 05 14:40 BST (UK) »
There is a lot more info about the operation they were on here:

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=41471&goto=nextnewest

Very sad.

[on a lighter note - I like the way this forum honours its long -serving members with the title "smart-arse"  ;D ]
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Re: A Challenge for Rootschatters
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 22 September 05 14:42 BST (UK) »
ho ho where does it say smart arse then, i cant see it
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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 22 September 05 14:46 BST (UK) »
Under the member's names - e.g. Eddie

The article says that the NZ airman's age was 28, not 22 as per CWGC.
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)