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what relation would I be ?
« on: Saturday 01 October 05 18:31 BST (UK) »
Hi, I know i may sound thick, but anyway, my gt gt grandfather married a Sarah Vagg, Sarah had a brother who had a son, what relation would that son be to me?

much appreciated

jim
Warburton- hulme and Ardwick manchester,1880 +
Dawson - chester, Tranmere,  1878 +
Thorpe- manchester, 1920+
Vagg - manchester = Salford

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Re: what relation would I be ?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 October 05 18:36 BST (UK) »
Sarah's nephew (her brother's son) was your gt-grandfather's first cousin.  He is your first cousin three times removed.

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Re: what relation would I be ?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 October 05 00:14 BST (UK) »
cheers Rambler, much appreciated.
He may have been removed 3 times but he'se back in the fold now ;D

Incidently, he was killed in action in 1915 aged 18 at Gallipoli
while serving with the Lancashire Fusiliers. He seved under the name of Bagg, not sure why, maybe Vagg sounded to much of a German name?


cheers Rambler

jim
Warburton- hulme and Ardwick manchester,1880 +
Dawson - chester, Tranmere,  1878 +
Thorpe- manchester, 1920+
Vagg - manchester = Salford

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Re: what relation would I be ?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 October 05 00:25 BST (UK) »
Sarah's nephew (her brother's son) was your gt-grandfather's first cousin. He is your first cousin three times removed.

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Jim

You might find the chart here

http://juliancbaker.rootschat.net/html/what_kind_of_cousin_.html

of help in working out numbered cousins etc.

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ESSEX  Carter, Enever, Jeffrey, Mason, Middleditch, Pond, Poole, Rose, Sorrell, Staines, Stephens, Surry, Theobald HUNTS  Danns KENT  Luetchford, Wood NOTTINGHAMSHIRE  Baker, Dunks, Kemp, Price, Priestley, Swain, Woodward SUFFOLK  Rose SURREY  Bedel, Bransden, Bysh, Coleman, Gibbs, Quinton SUSSEX Gibbs, Langridge, Pilbeam, Spencer WILTSHIRE  Brice, Rumble


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Re: what relation would I be ?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 October 05 03:06 BST (UK) »
Julian, excellent website, really enjoyed it, left a message on the visitors book.

According to the chart my gt gt grandmothers nephew is my third cousin, have i got this correct?

regards


Jim
Warburton- hulme and Ardwick manchester,1880 +
Dawson - chester, Tranmere,  1878 +
Thorpe- manchester, 1920+
Vagg - manchester = Salford

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Re: what relation would I be ?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 October 05 16:53 BST (UK) »
Hi, I know i may sound thick, but anyway, my gt gt grandfather married a Sarah Vagg, Sarah had a brother who had a son, what relation would that son be to me?

Jim

Your closest common ancestors were the parents of Sarah Vagg ie your great great great grandparents, and the "son" in question (ie Sarah Vagg's nephew) was their grandson.

Sarah's nephew (her brother's son) was your gt-grandfather's first cousin. He is your first cousin three times removed.

So Manchester Rambler was spot on.

However, Sarah Vagg's nephew's grandchildren would be your third cousins.

Glad you enjoyed my website.

JULIAN

ESSEX  Carter, Enever, Jeffrey, Mason, Middleditch, Pond, Poole, Rose, Sorrell, Staines, Stephens, Surry, Theobald HUNTS  Danns KENT  Luetchford, Wood NOTTINGHAMSHIRE  Baker, Dunks, Kemp, Price, Priestley, Swain, Woodward SUFFOLK  Rose SURREY  Bedel, Bransden, Bysh, Coleman, Gibbs, Quinton SUSSEX Gibbs, Langridge, Pilbeam, Spencer WILTSHIRE  Brice, Rumble

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Re: what relation would I be ?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 October 05 17:46 BST (UK) »
Ahh yesss now i see, never considered Sarah's parents in the equation.
Not that i doubted Rambler for a moment of course, although it does prove that i am verging slightly on the thick side when it comes to something staring me in the face.

cheers gentlemen, excellent.


Jim
Warburton- hulme and Ardwick manchester,1880 +
Dawson - chester, Tranmere,  1878 +
Thorpe- manchester, 1920+
Vagg - manchester = Salford