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Offline MikeW

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William Nelson Brown
« on: Saturday 15 October 05 22:30 BST (UK) »
William Nelson Brown from Ireland -- visiting or living in Toronto, around 1890-1900 : anyone have any info on him or his relatives. He was fairly old at that time --  possibly died/buried Toronto ?
Wife/partner was Jane(Bleeks) when living in Ireland.   Any info appreciated.
                                  MW.

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Re: William Nelson Brown
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 October 05 18:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Mike,

Do you have any other information that may help?  What makes you think he was in Toronto?  Do you know of other family members that were in Toronto?  Did his wife Jane come with him?  How old is old?

Karen
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: William Nelson Brown
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 October 05 22:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Karen~
              Thank you for your interest.                            WNB was my grandfather's father-in-law  --  and so, one of my g-g-grandfathers.  His first wife died young, in 1844, and he had a second family with a "Jane Bleeks or Devlin" (widow?), according to one record. All that happened in Co Tyrone, Northern Ireland.
WNB was born around 1800-1810.....that's how I estimated  the 'old' bit!   And,  I have  a copy of an old photo, bearing a studio address in Toronto........which was where my grandparents emigrated to, after their marriage in 1900. Their first child(my uncle) was born in St Peter's Hosp.(family name Watters), but they  left Toronto within a few years.
I don't know what happened to WNB or Jane : the old tombstone in Tyrone only records up to the death of his first wife.     Just wondered if anyone in Rootschat had encountered the old guy, somewhere.    Looking for ANY Browns is  bad enough........but, you never know !
If you do come across anything of interest, I'd love to hear it.                 Thanks --
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Re: William Nelson Brown
« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 October 05 14:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Mike,

My "step" mother-in-law is a "Brown" from Toronto and York Region.  I'll ask her what she knows of the Brown family and get back to you.

Karen
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: William Nelson Brown
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 October 05 19:04 BST (UK) »
BROWN   William Nelson   Hampton Union (North Section)   Durham   Darlington   WO-182-5
found here:  http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/

But unfortunately we also have this listing which shows a Jane, but not right maiden name and also too young so that might be another William Nelson
In Brant Co., 1901... http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/thisisit.htm
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Re: William Nelson Brown
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 25 October 05 19:29 BST (UK) »
Good Job JJ

Here's a link to the cemetery.

http://www.rootsweb.com/~onwob22/cemeteries/hamptonu.htm

(I was just by there a few weeks ago too!)

Karen
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: William Nelson Brown
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 25 October 05 19:43 BST (UK) »
Hello, again, Mike
 Actually, the father of the married man in the above listing is this man (below)
and although the son was only 36, in 1901 seems his father was quite old...
so am sending this anyway...from LDS Family search site. 1881 census...
Something to chew on....although could be mere coincidence.

William N.   Irish   70   Ireland   Farmer all are Presb
Jane   Irish   37   Turkey,   Mediterranean   
James B.      23   Ireland   Farmer 
Thomas B.     21   Ireland   Farmer 
Annie    18   Ireland      Presbyterian   
Bamber   15   Ontario   Farmer 
)p.s....Hi,Karen!)
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Re: William Nelson Brown
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 26 October 05 00:46 BST (UK) »
Karen and JJ:
                  What a surprise ! My sincere thanks to you both ~ I really wasn't expecting much(if anything ) by way of response. The items from the 1881 census COULD just be my missing WNB - the birth date of 1810/1811 would be about right, and he did have a son James born (in Ireland) 1858.    I certainly have a lot "to chew on" here. I will have to go and check my old notes again  -  see if anything else makes sense.  There was a Presbyterian/Protestant mixture...but I thought it was different. Also, the "Turkey/mediterranean" reference is puzzling .
 Thanks again to you both. Will be in touch.
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Re: William Nelson Brown
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 26 October 05 02:41 BST (UK) »
Yes, unfortunately you will need lots more information, here....as some things do not match...such as the bleeks maiden name. The lady although born in Ireland may have had parents elsewhere, so that may not a problem....and it may have been a recollection at the time for that person....censuses can have some pretty conflicting info, I've found....However, you will have to research more re: children,
as the only one on the family search was your James...
The listing for the Jane you seek is surely close in age...re: Fam.Search
JANE BLEEKS  Birth: 20 MAY 1845  Arboe, Tyrone, Ireland... so this is a toughy!

  Lots of good people in rootschat more savvy in the Ontario area...Keep plugging at it!!!! All the best.  J.J.
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