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Laird & McLuckie
« on: Monday 24 October 05 04:48 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I am looking for any information on the Laird family from St Ninians & Larbert early 1700's

Alexander Laird married Agnes McLuckie abt 1735 and their children were born Larbert.

Does anyone have any information on early Lairds or McLuckies?

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Re: Laird & McLuckie
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 October 05 11:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Dano,

Found these on the BVRs for you. . . .

LAIRD,
Gender:   Male
Christening Date: 2 Mar 1740
Recorded in: Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father:   Alexander LAIRD
Mother:   Agnes MCCLUCKIE
Source:   FHL Film 1041953   Dates:   1723 - 1855

LAIRD, Christopher
Gender:   Male
Christening Date: 3 Mar 1742
Recorded in: Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father:   Alexander LAIRD
Mother:   Agnes MCCLUCKIE
Source:   FHL Film 1041953   Dates:   1723 - 1855

LAIRD, Alexander
Gender:   Male
Christening Date: 25 Dec 1743
Recorded in: Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Collection: St John Street; Associate Session Congregation
Father:   Alexander LAIRD
Mother:   Agnes MCLUCKIE
Source:   FHL Film 889487   Dates:   1738 - 1816

LAIRD, Robert
Gender:   Male
Christening Date: 26 Apr 1747
Recorded in: Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Collection: St John Street; Associate Session Congregation
Father:   Alexander LAIRD
Mother:   Agnes MCLUCKIE
Source:   FHL Film 889487   Dates:   1738 - 1816

Hope this helps,

Anne





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Re: Laird & McLuckie
« Reply #2 on: Monday 24 October 05 23:27 BST (UK) »
Hello Anne,

thanks for your help, they are my Lairds.  I have never been able to find a marriage for Agnes & Alexander or a birth for Agnes.  Alexander was born 1710 St Ninians but Agnes it appears just sprang up from nowhere.  I havemany McLuckies but none seem to relate back to Agnes.

It seems the St John Street Associated Session is a breakaway church.  I wonder if the parents were married there?

I also have an Agnes born to Alex and Agnes 1736 in Larbert & an Abraham that I think belongs to them.  I am hoping someone can help me solve the mystery.

Cheers
Dano
Stirlingshire, Scotland - Aitken, Waddell, Wilson, Rae, Dunlop, Liddell, McLuckie. Laird
Carmarthen, Wales - Lewis
Carvan, Ireland - Coyle
N.S.W. Australia - Lewis, Morris


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Re: Laird & McLuckie
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 October 05 09:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Dano,

I had a look to see if I could find a birth for Agnes McCluckie/McLuckie 1719 +/- 5 years - no luck.

I looked to see if Alexander had any siblings and it seems he (possibly) had three. There is a 12 year gap between John and Hellen and also Hellen seems to have been born in Larbert rather than St. Ninians but the two places aren't very far apart so that wouldn't count her out.

LAIRD, Robert
Gender:   Male
Christening Date: 15 Nov 1707
Recorded in: St. Ninians, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father:   Robert LAIRD
Mother:   Margaret COWAN
Source:   FHL Film 1041956   Dates:   1688 - 1819

LAIRD, Alexander
Gender:   Male
Christening Date: 28 Mar 1710
Recorded in: St. Ninians, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father:   Robert LAIRD
Mother:   Margaret COWAN
Source:   FHL Film 1041956   Dates:   1688 - 1819

LAIRD, John
Gender:   Male
Christening Date: 18 Sep 1712
Recorded in: St. Ninians, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father:   Robert LAIRD
Mother:   Margaret COWAN
Source:   FHL Film 1041956   Dates:   1688 - 1819

LAIRD, Hellen
Gender:   Female
Christening Date: 4 Oct 1730
Recorded in: Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father:   Robert LAIRD
Mother:   Margret COWAN
Source:   FHL Film 1041953   Dates:   1723 - 1855

I would imagine that the best you'll get on Alexander & Agnes would be a 'Banns' listing from the OPRs rather than an actual marriage, although I couldn't find anything on the BVRs.

Sorry,

Anne

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Re: Laird & McLuckie
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 26 October 05 09:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Anne,

sorry for the delayed response.  I keep writing replies and they dissapear into the ether.  I guess I still have my training wheels on.

I have the 1st 3 children Robert 1707, Alexander 1710 & John 1712 all born St Ninians as the children of Robert Laird & Margaret Cowan who married 1706 St Ninians.

Then I have the following children born to Robert Laird & Margaret Cowan all born Larbert Hellen 1725, Robert 1727 & Hellen 1730.  I assumed that it was the son Robert b 1707 who also married a lady named Margaret Cowan abt 1725 but I have been unable to find the marriage. 
As I explain it here, it really begins to sound implausible.  Perhaps it is the same couple and we have just lost the records of the children b  1712 - 1727 as the family moved from St Ninians to Larbert.

What do you think?

Regards Dano




Stirlingshire, Scotland - Aitken, Waddell, Wilson, Rae, Dunlop, Liddell, McLuckie. Laird
Carmarthen, Wales - Lewis
Carvan, Ireland - Coyle
N.S.W. Australia - Lewis, Morris

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Re: Laird & McLuckie
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 October 05 18:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Dano,

Mmmm...

Why would there be a 13 year gap between John (1712) and Hellen (1725). If we presume that Margaret was as young as 16 when she married Robert in 1706, 17 when Robert was born, 20 when Alexander was born, 22 when John was born, then 35 at the start of "phase 2".

It's not 'old' to still be having children but the gap, as you say, is a mystery. The only thing I can think of is maybe she suffered miscarriages?

The first Robert (and the first Hellen) must have died before the second Robert was born, so that puts him out of the equation for being  the "phase 2" lot's father.

I'll have a look through the pre-1855 MI's and see if I can find anything.

Anne

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Re: Laird & McLuckie
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 November 05 22:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Anne,

This Laird family is a real mystery.  I don't know where they began.  They just seemed to spring up. like so many of my other families.

The name Abraham runs in the Laird family but the name Christopher b 1742 to Agnes McLuckie & Alexander Laird appears to be rare.  The only other Christopher is is nephew born 1771 Larbert to James Laird & Elizabeth Taylor.

I wonder if anyone else had come across that 1st name?

Dano
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Carmarthen, Wales - Lewis
Carvan, Ireland - Coyle
N.S.W. Australia - Lewis, Morris

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Re: Laird & McLuckie
« Reply #7 on: Friday 12 February 10 10:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I know this message was first posted a few years ago, but I have recently started family research and i was looking for relevant threads on here.  I am a direct descendant from Robert Laird and Margaret Cowan and Alexander Laird and Agnes Mcluckie (5th and 6th Great Grandfather).

If you have found out anything else in the last 5 years or want to exchange research please get in touch!

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Re: Laird & McLuckie
« Reply #8 on: Friday 12 February 10 22:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I did quite a lot of research on the Lairds.  How does your line come down after Alexander & Agnes McLuckie?

Dano
Stirlingshire, Scotland - Aitken, Waddell, Wilson, Rae, Dunlop, Liddell, McLuckie. Laird
Carmarthen, Wales - Lewis
Carvan, Ireland - Coyle
N.S.W. Australia - Lewis, Morris