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Offline elsie ellen

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Query re Terminology
« on: Thursday 13 September 07 00:14 BST (UK) »
Good morning everyone...will be extra good if we get some rain!!  :)

"By Licence" ... what does that mean please? If both signatories to the marriage were 34 years of age, why would they require a licence?

The marriage was solemised according to the rites of the Primitive Methodist Church.

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Elsie

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Re: Query re Terminology
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 September 07 00:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Elsie,

Yes, we sure do need the rain! Hoping for some tomorrow night as promised, but not really expecting any  :-\.

I found this which may explain:
Marriages normally took place following the reading of banns in a couple’s home parish on three successive Sundays. However, they could also be ‘by licence’, dispensing with the requirement for reading the banns and enabling the marriage to take place more quickly, and without publicity.

The majority of those issued were common licences, but some were special licences: the latter allowed for a marriage service to be performed in a church or chapel not normally licensed for weddings, or outside the normal hours.

Reasons for applying for a marriage licence varied. One was speed - useful for people perhaps going abroad or expecting babies (Shakespeare and Anne Hathaway applied for an Archbishop’s Licence seven months prior to their first baby being christened). Another was confidentiality: dispensing with the requirement to announce wedding banns meant that people could marry (or indeed, as was often the case, re-marry) more discreetly.

Hope that helps. I also vaguely remember reading (and someone will correct me if I'm wrong) that it was more expensive to marry by licence, so your couple may not have been short of money.

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Re: Query re Terminology
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 September 07 02:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Ellen and Ruskie,
Could you tell me please whether these distinctions are visible on the certificate of marriage?
Or only on the Church registry?

The reason I ask is a few of my ancestral births do seem to follow a bit close to the wedding  and it would be interesting to know if the licence/banns details revealed hasty solution.
Sue
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Re: Query re Terminology
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 September 07 02:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Elsie

The marriage certificate does say if it is by Banns or Licence - unless the minister forgets to fill in that part of the form, and this would not happen very often.

More than 'a few' of my ancestral births have been close to the wedding  ;D
some beforehand.

Christine  :)
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Re: Query re Terminology
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 September 07 08:56 BST (UK) »
Just arrived home and was delighted to find such a clear and concise explanation of the term "by Licence". Thank you so much Ruskie.  :) :)

That would also then help explain that the names of the witnesses on the marriage certificate are the same as those on the following certificate on the same page for two unrelated people to my couple who married two days later. Their certificate is also "by Licence".

Sue...these this term is clearly written on the certificate. I have only today realised it might have some significance in helping me learn more of this couple and their circumstances.

Chris...probably more than we've ever been told by any family!

With a smile

Elsie