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R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« on: Friday 18 January 08 23:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi if anyone on here would like any info on the buffaloes just post on here and I will see what I can get for you (prob not a lot) but could lead you in the right direction .
What I do have are records of where lodge met the Lodge name and number,
so if you find some old jewels or papers from your family just ask.
I am a member of the order and try to record items of intrest for the future
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PS if I dont reply within a couple of days PM me Wink
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 January 08 08:41 UTC (UK) »

My maternal grandfather was supposed to be a member of the Buffs.
He was JOHN CLULO b. 1st September 1874.
He worked as a lamplighter for Manchester Corporation for many years until 1916.
After that he had a loan from his brother William, and ran a chip shop, or supper bar as my mother preferred to call it Cheesy  until at least 1939, at 428, Cheetham Hill Road, Manchester.
I have made previous queries with nil results.
Hope you can help.
Kooky
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 January 08 10:05 UTC (UK) »

Hi whittenbury

Many thanks for your kind offer.  I have a great uncle who was apparently a Buffalo.  All I have on him is a newspaper obituary referring to this (I have not researched this chap as yet)  Arthur Reginald Pearson b 05/Nov/1880 Newcastle upon Tyne, was a member of the Oliver Cromwell branch of Buffaloes.  He died 02/Feb/1932 Newcastle.  Any information you may be able to obtain would be gratefully received

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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 January 08 13:59 UTC (UK) »

My maternal grandfather was supposed to be a member of the Buffs.
He was JOHN CLULO b. 1st September 1874.
He worked as a lamplighter for Manchester Corporation for many years until 1916.
After that he had a loan from his brother William, and ran a chip shop, or supper bar as my mother preferred to call it Cheesy  until at least 1939, at 428, Cheetham Hill Road, Manchester.
I have made previous queries with nil results.
Hope you can help.
Kooky

Hi Kooky
I have tried finding a lodge that met in that road (although you could go to any lodge) in 1940 there were well ov 60 lodges in manchester. i doubt his province would hold anything anyway. Sorry
But what I would sugest, if he was a member of Grand Lodge of England to write to Grand Secretary.


Grand Secretary

 Stuart Steele BSc (hons)

Grove House, Skipton Road, Harrogate, North Yorkshire HG1 4LA

They might have his records! If you are lucky you prob wont get a lot just some dates and if he obtained a higher degree.
Please let me know how you get on
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 January 08 14:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi whittenbury

Many thanks for your kind offer.  I have a great uncle who was apparently a Buffalo.  All I have on him is a newspaper obituary referring to this (I have not researched this chap as yet)  Arthur Reginald Pearson b 05/Nov/1880 Newcastle upon Tyne, was a member of the Oliver Cromwell branch of Buffaloes.  He died 02/Feb/1932 Newcastle.  Any information you may be able to obtain would be gratefully received

sallysmum

Hi I can give a little bit more on this!
Lodge number
77 Oliver Cromwell Was in  came under the Northumberland & N E Durham (the lodge closed just before 1993)
I have a Directory from 1936 (old directories are as rare as hen's teeth  Grin )
 It met at the Barrass Bridge hotel Barrass Bridge Newcastle on a Moday evening (so at least you know where he was on monday nights supping a few pints having a laugh and serious at times of business and ceremonies )
You could try writing to the Provincial Grand Secretary Bro Bryan Taylor ROH Northumberland & N E Durham
(I dont have his home address because he is diffrent from the last Directory 2005)
Railway Club, Hudson Street, Gateshead, NE8 2AB. Mark the envolope Buffaloes!

After that you could write to Grand Sec (address above)

Have a look at GLE website go to Provinces Northumberland have a website & guest book Might be worth a try
http://www.raobgle.org.uk/
Happy Hunting
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 January 08 15:19 UTC (UK) »

Whittenbury,
Thank you. I will write.
Kooky
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 January 08 09:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi Wittenbury

Many thanks for this information.  I will write to the Grand Sec

Kind regards

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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 27 January 08 19:25 UTC (UK) »

Re James Bond - See earlier today.
I have attached a photo of him in his RAOB regalia.  The bottom logo on the apron says "Order of Merit" whilst the small one at the top of the apron says " "K M O" not sure which is the correct order.
The jewel on the chain (Middle bottom) says RAOB
I believe the photo could have been taken in about 1917 & was taken by a photographer in Barry, South Wales. He lived in Barry or Cadoxton near Cardiff.
I also have a small wooden box containing a seal "B" with wax pieces & on the lid is the same logo as on the top of the apron "K M O" . Around the logo on the box is "Sir J Bond".
Hope you can shed some light on this ancestor.
Thanks for your help so far.
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 27 January 08 21:14 UTC (UK) »

Hi John
Here is a bit for the minute
The Rhoto is him wearing his Knights regalia (K O M ) Knight order of Merit, 3rd degree of 4.
The large collar shows the letter S on the left .The S w this would mean at theould stand for Sitting Primo (nowdays Worthy Primo)
This would mean that month he was elected to run the lodge. (a bit like the chairman)
I am going to see if i can get the Jewels a bit clearer then report back
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 27 January 08 21:27 UTC (UK) »

Sorry about that i did not realise my wife had loged on this pc but it is me honest lol
The jewel on the right is his knights jewel need to examine the other two a bit more not that clear be in touch soon
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 27 January 08 21:31 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
What does it mean-Buffaloism? My Grandfather was one (either that or his Dad, both had the same forename). I never realised until I was rumaging through some old photos and found some kind of certificate!!!
Thanks.
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 27 January 08 21:48 UTC (UK) »

Me too!

I recently came across a beautifully coloured certificate which must have been presented to my father, certifying that he had "been duly initiated into the mysteries of BUFFALOISM with all the ancient rites and ceremonies."  on 27th March, 1937.

Arched at the top is "Royal Antediluvian Order of Buffaloes".  Grand Middlesex Banner - an "Eclectic" Lodge No. 219.  (I think this would be likely in the Tottenham Court Road area)

Lovely prints at the bottom of King John signing the Magtna Charta and Queen Elizaqbeth presenting Earl Essex the Banner & Motto of our Order.

What appears to be the motto is on scrolling like ribbon "In things Essential UNITY", "In things Doubtful LIBERTY", "and in all things CHARITY".
Also pictures of what would appear to be statues representing Europe, Asia, Africa and America.

Such a pity it's too large to scan but I would like to know more about what Buffaloism is.

Thanks
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 27 January 08 22:11 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
What does it mean-Buffaloism? My Grandfather was one (either that or his Dad, both had the same forename). I never realised until I was rumaging through some old photos and found some kind of certificate!!!
Thanks.

Hello Burto and MaryA,

Click to read "An introduction to Buffaloism as practiced by the R.A.O.B." by David Hardy.

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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 27 January 08 22:18 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Christopher, that's a good link.

Mary
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 27 January 08 22:23 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Christopher
He will like that he is a member of my lodge.
Its a bit long winded.
To be a member you must be Initiated into the order.
The main aspects of the order is philanthropy, benevolance.
but to keep it short have a good night out & help the less fortunate brothers and the local comunity.
I will answer your posts individualy
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