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Paul E
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« on: Saturday 15 January 05 10:11 GMT (UK) »

I am sure many Rootschat users will have heard of 'Googlewhacking', where the object is to put two words into the Google search engine and come up with only one result?

Well, how about Census whacking using Ancestry or other programmes?

The rules are simple: see if you can find

- a surname that occurs in only ONE family in any census
- a first name that only one person in the country has
- an occupation that only one person in the country has

Any takers?? Grin

To start you off, in 1881 there was only ONE 'Witch Well Hole Maker' in the country - what would we have done without him?

RG11/0233 
Registration district:    Islington 
Sub-registration district:    Islington West 
ED, institution, or vessel:    30 
Folio:    38 
Page:    21


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« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15 January 05 10:19 GMT (UK) »

 I have the one and only Daroch in the 1901 census.
Alice Daroch born in Plymouth living in Roath Cardiff. She was recently married and her husband was a mariner so presumably away at sea.

On other documents it is spelt Daroche and they are the only ones on Free BMD. I'ld love to know more about them but have found nothing post 1916 or pre her marriage in 1900
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 15 January 05 10:55 GMT (UK) »

Hi Jane

Have you been able to send for her marriage certificate, which would give her maiden name and dtails of her father, which would make searching easier (so long as she wasn't a Smith!)

First point to Jane for the only 1901 Daroch! Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 15 January 05 15:54 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for the suggestion but I knew who she was before her marriage I had been looking for her afterwards.

Her maiden name was Alice Maud Lewis daughter of Richard Lewis and Elizabeth Cozins. Richard had been in the army so the children had been born in various places. My great grandfather(Alice's older brother) was born in Gibraltar and his birth record eludes me.

However back to the original point she married Eugene Daroche in 1900 had a selection of children to 1916 and then the Daroche's have disappeared. In fact Eugene only appears on his marriage certificate--did he exist!!!!
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 January 05 20:26 GMT (UK) »

Sorry Janed, didn;t mean to try to teach my grandmother how to etc etc.  It was just the way I interpreted your message Embarrassed
I had a quick look on Genes Reunited and the major surname variant is Darroch.  Not much help there!
best wishes

Paul

PS

Is James Ray England's only Sheepdipper in 1881?

RG11/3435 
Registration district:    Chesterfield 
Sub-registration district:    Chesterfield 
ED, institution, or vessel:    29 
Folio:    38 
Page:    70
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 15 January 05 23:36 GMT (UK) »


- a first name that only one person in the country has


1901 - Modred

Modred Tully aged 11, born London, living in Croydon, Surrey.


Maybe a Rootschatter has Modred in their tree??

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 15 January 05 23:42 GMT (UK) »

Here's another first name that appears only once in 1901:

Azenath

Azenath Burley aged 21, born Luxulyan, Cornwall, living in Newquay Cornwall.

(I guessed at that one as it's a mis-spelling of my Grandmother's name!)

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 15 January 05 23:57 GMT (UK) »

I think that's two points to Tabitha, who has taken a lead in the early stages.  The actual image for the Modred entry looks nothing like Modred - but the rules don't say anything about transcription errors!

Azanath is wonderful.  Sounds like a character in Lord of the Rings!

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 16 January 05 16:48 GMT (UK) »

I don't subscribe to Ancestry but I would love to know if my g.g. grandmother was the only Mirwen Maria.   I've also seen spelling variants of Murwen/Murven/Marwin Maria.   She died in 1901.

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Jowett, Broadbent & Ellis in Leeds.
Perry, Hartshorn/e & Wilkes in Birmingham & Dudley. Walker and Dabill in Sheffield & Notts.
Farrar in Darlington.
Kidd & Taylor in Hartlepool & Teesside
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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 16 January 05 19:38 GMT (UK) »

Hi Jill

Can't find Mirwen Maria or any of the variants in any of the censuses, I'm afraid - so no points here.
But something strange is going on in the world of the Marias in the last half of the C19th...

Ancestry shows 588 of them in England in 1871, only 16 in 1881, 285 in 1891 and 192 in 1901.
I suspect that the name has been altered in transcription in a lot of cases in 1881 - unless they were all hiding!

(There are 2 Marwin's in 1901, 4 in 1891, 4 in 1881 and 2 in 1871 but none of the other variants).

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Paul
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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 16 January 05 21:02 GMT (UK) »

Hi Paul,

That's strange.   I have her as Maria Hartshorn age 20 in the 1841, Mirven Hartshorn age 33 in the 1851, in 1861 she is Merwin Hartshorne/Nail Maker age 48 (which is confusing in itself) and in 1871 she is Merwin M., age 53.   The same address, St. James Terrace, Dudley for all censuses.   I haven't seen the images.   

On the IGI Christening records for her children she becomes Murwin Maria and I have this week found her death, in Sheffield in January 1901 and I sent for the certificate yesterday.

I haven't yet found her on the 1881 or 1891 so maybe she is one of those you have found?

Pity I'm not getting any points!

Jill




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Jowett, Broadbent & Ellis in Leeds.
Perry, Hartshorn/e & Wilkes in Birmingham & Dudley. Walker and Dabill in Sheffield & Notts.
Farrar in Darlington.
Kidd & Taylor in Hartlepool & Teesside
Census information is crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 16 January 05 23:29 GMT (UK) »

 Cheesy Yes, she's there in 1871 as Merwin M Hartshorne, and I stand corrected - there are seven merwin's in England at that time.  There are 10 in 1881, but the oldest is 42.   There are 9 in 1901, but the oldest is 52 .  Not sure why they didn't emerge on my first search though - - must have mistyped a digit in oriinal search??? Embarrassed

Now, if we were giving points for variations in ages across the censuses, Merwin would have bagged you a handful!

Ancestry throws up a Mary Ann Maria living at 10 St John's Street, Dudley in 1891, aged 52 BUT looking at the image she is shown as mother of the head of household who is James Louison Weeks, and above her is an Ethel Maria, aged 2, Daur: I suspect the 'do' is missing for Ethel and that she should be weeks, so that Mary Ann 'do' is indexed as Maria.  Hey ho!

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Paul
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« Reply #12 on: Monday 17 January 05 12:47 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Paul;  very interesting!   I wonder why my Merwin doesn't show up on the 1881?   

All the information you are giving me compensates adequately for the lack of points, and when you start a thread on age variations you can expect to see Merwin as an entrant for top prize!

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Jowett, Broadbent & Ellis in Leeds.
Perry, Hartshorn/e & Wilkes in Birmingham & Dudley. Walker and Dabill in Sheffield & Notts.
Farrar in Darlington.
Kidd & Taylor in Hartlepool & Teesside
Census information is crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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« Reply #13 on: Monday 17 January 05 17:33 GMT (UK) »

Hi Jill

Have you come across this in 1881:

1881 Dudley

18 Salop Street


Sophia Banks, Head, Widow, 73, Nailmaker, Dudley
Mary Ann Hartshorn, Daur, Widow, 43 Huh, Nailmaker, Dudley

RG11/2875 
Registration district:    Dudley 
Sub-registration district:    Dudley 
ED, institution, or vessel:    2b 
Folio:    54 
Page:    31

She is the only Hartshorn nailmaker showing in 1881.

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« Reply #14 on: Monday 17 January 05 17:43 GMT (UK) »

Hi Paul,

Yes, thank you very much, I have found that one.   I think you will find the name is Danks, not Banks.   I can only assume that Mary Ann was the wife of one of Merwin's sons.   I have found 6 children so far:  Edwin <1836>, George 1839, Isaac 1849, Sarah Ann 1851, Maria 12.12.1852 and Joshua <1857>.   I need to find Mary Ann on an earlier census with her husband!

Thanks again.

Jill
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Jowett, Broadbent & Ellis in Leeds.
Perry, Hartshorn/e & Wilkes in Birmingham & Dudley. Walker and Dabill in Sheffield & Notts.
Farrar in Darlington.
Kidd & Taylor in Hartlepool & Teesside
Census information is crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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