Author Topic: Inter-Faith Marriages 19th Century  (Read 5032 times)

Offline joetagg

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 32
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Inter-Faith Marriages 19th Century
« on: Thursday 07 August 08 20:27 BST (UK) »
I'm sorry if this sounds a dumb question but some details about my g g g grandparents are confusing me.

Is it likely that a couple (groom Jewish, bride CoE) first celebrated their marriage with a Jewish ceremony and then "re-married" under CoE ceremony years later?

Thanks
Abraham, Barberry, Bower, Carter, Malley, Redmond, Rider, Roberts, Bigg, Wenman, Sandys

Offline daval57

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,941
  • Christmas 2011. My daughter Clare with me.
    • View Profile
Re: Inter-Faith Marriages 19th Century
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 August 08 20:37 BST (UK) »
I've got at least one relation in the 1920's that did just that (in Scotland).  Jewish and Catholic.  My Jewish relation had to 'change' religion before the marriage was recognised by the Catholic church.

My understanding is (and my knowledge is limited) that the Catholic Church will not recognise a marraige unless both parties are RC.  I'm willing to be corrected and learn.....

There must be more correct terms for this but I'm sorry, I don't know them.

Dave
-------------------
FORREST (Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Stirlingshire and Dunbartonshire)
ROONEY (Co Down, Co Antrim) 
BORTHWICK, FORTUNE, BARKER, SIVES (Lothians)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness)

Offline daval57

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,941
  • Christmas 2011. My daughter Clare with me.
    • View Profile
Re: Inter-Faith Marriages 19th Century
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 August 08 20:43 BST (UK) »
You got me looking - this looks like an interesting site.
Applies to modern day but don't imagine many of the principles will have changed.

http://www.interfaithmarriage.org.uk/marr_findsomewhere.html
-------------------
FORREST (Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Stirlingshire and Dunbartonshire)
ROONEY (Co Down, Co Antrim) 
BORTHWICK, FORTUNE, BARKER, SIVES (Lothians)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness)

Offline Lydart

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,272
    • View Profile
Re: Inter-Faith Marriages 19th Century
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 August 08 21:13 BST (UK) »
I think Roman Catholics are OK with a mixed faith marriage such as you list ... BUT the children HAVE to be brought up as RC
Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge Williams Sturney/Sturmey Prince Foyle/Foil Hoare Vincent Fripp/Frypp Triggle/Trygel Adams Hibige/Hibditch Riggs White Angel Cake 
C'wall/Devon/France/CANADA (Barkerville, B.C.): Pomeroy/Pomerai/Pomroy
Som'set: Clark(e) Fry
Durham: Law(e)
London: Hanham Poplett
Lancs/Cheshire/CANADA (Kelowna, B.C. & Sask): Stubbs Walmesley

WRITE LETTERS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO TREASURE ... EMAILS DISAPPEAR !

Census information Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Offline daval57

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,941
  • Christmas 2011. My daughter Clare with me.
    • View Profile
Re: Inter-Faith Marriages 19th Century
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 August 08 21:30 BST (UK) »
I agree with what you say about children Lydart.
I think in Scotland though, the feelings / reactions (for want of better words) would have been , and possibly still are, much stronger.


However, that's an aside and possibly getting away from joetagg's question.


Interesting subject though, isn't it.

Dave

-------------------
FORREST (Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Stirlingshire and Dunbartonshire)
ROONEY (Co Down, Co Antrim) 
BORTHWICK, FORTUNE, BARKER, SIVES (Lothians)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness)

Offline aghadowey

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 52,528
    • View Profile
Re: Inter-Faith Marriages 19th Century
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 August 08 21:40 BST (UK) »
Children of a non-Jewish mother are not considered Jewish...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interreligious_marriage
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

Offline MarieC

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,575
  • In Queensland, Oz
    • View Profile
Re: Inter-Faith Marriages 19th Century
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 August 08 11:43 BST (UK) »
The groom could have finally decided to convert to his wife's faith, and to mark this by a "marriage" in the Established Church!

MarieC
Census information is Crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Martins in London and Wales, Lockwoods in Yorkshire, Hartleys in London, Lichfield and Brighton, Hubands and Smiths in Ireland, Bentleys in London and Yorkshire, Denhams in Somerset, Scoles in London, Meyers in London, Cooks in Northumberland

Offline joetagg

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 32
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Inter-Faith Marriages 19th Century
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 August 08 07:59 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the information and suggestions. Your advice is much appreciated.
Now it's just a case of tracking down the first marriage (easier said than done I fear!)
Joe
Abraham, Barberry, Bower, Carter, Malley, Redmond, Rider, Roberts, Bigg, Wenman, Sandys

Offline Berlin-Bob

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,443
    • View Profile
Re: Inter-Faith Marriages 19th Century
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 August 08 08:29 BST (UK) »
Apart from the "legalities", there is another aspect to this that often comes up in Family History:

People marrying into a different faith, ie. "outside the faith" are sometimes banned, ostracised, or in extreme cases, given up for dead-

The last one can often happen in jewish families. Personal example: my grandmother (jewish) married a gentile.  As far as her family was concerned, she had died, and they even said the official "prayers of the dead" for her.

Bob

ps
You can find some more topics on Marriage Rules (including this one) in the
RootsChat Reference Library => Lexicon (click here)
(Tip: click on a category - on the right - for related topics)
Any UK Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)