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[cando]

Hi Lauren,

MI Cheltenham


ALLEN Ada died 15/3/1945 (Mother) (J8e)

Cheers Kris 

Death
ALLEN Ada
15 Mar 1945
85 years  Status Widow  Relative Joseph ALLEN [deceased husband]
Residence Northfield  Death Place Northfield  PtA H 686/1105

Her death certificate is only available in South Australia.  Transcriptions which are a cheaper option are available from
http://www.saghs.org.au/research.htm#transcription

Ada ALLEN was enrolled to vote on the 1942 electoral roll with address Merbein, Vic.

Their son Val Roy died in South Australia

ALLEN Val Roy
19 Oct 1954
63 years  Status Widower  No relative noted
Residence Ottoway   Death Place Barmera    Mur 818/6132

Perhaps he was responsible for the headstone on her grave.

Val and his wife Edith are also buried at the Cheltenham Cemetery.
 
Marriage
ALLEN Joseph born Hawthorn
GAYLOR Ada  born Launceston
1883  Reg#1270

This is possibly Ada's birth in Launceston.   According to her death certificate she was born c1860.

Birth
GAYLOR Name Not Recorded    Female
Father William  Mother Margaret MORRIS
6 Nov 1860 at Launceston  Reg#461/860

Do you have her marriage certificate? 

Images of the certificates can be purchased online and immediately download - $17.50
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

The bride and groom's parents' names are detailed on marriage certificates.

Cheers
Cando

[dracon1a]

Hello Cando,
This site never ceases to amaze me. Thank you for this info.
I now know she did come to SA probably with her son & daughter-in-law, Val and Edith Allen who are my Grandparents.
I knew where they are buried and have been there to copy the headstone.
I also now know she was still in Vic in 1942 from your message.
I do have Ada & Josephs marriage certificate and it lists Adas parents as William Gaylor and Margaret nee GEE not Morris so maybe that is why the Tas BDM couldn't find her.
I wish all the States had the availability of Victorias BDM Historical.
I will  go to the transcript site and try for her death certificate.
Many many thanks for your hard work Rootschat searchers!!!!

[cando]

I would mention that being enrolled to vote at an election does not prove that the person was actually at that address at the date of the election.

Ada had a sister
GAYLOR   Name Not Recorded  Female
Father William  Mother Margaret MORRIS
9 Dec 1863
At Launceston Reg#18/1864

This is the only death I can see for a William in Tasmania.

GAYLOR William
22 May  1876  75 years 
At Launceston  Reg#3056/1876

Good resource for research in Tasmania
http://www.archives.tas.gov.au/nameindexes

Information on death certificates in South Australia in 1945 is not very informative.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=368744.0
Including deaths -
1908-1947
    * Date and Place of Death
    * Name
    * Sex
    * Age
    * Occupation
    * Usual Residence
    * Birthplace
    * Length of Residence in Commonwealth
    * Age at Marriage
    * Number of Issue Living and Deceased
    * Cause of Death
    * Place of Death
    * Informant

Cheers
Cando

[dracon1a]

Thanks Cando,

I have Adas & Josephs marriage certificate and it states that she was 21 when she married on 24-2-1883 so that makes her born in 1862 in Tas.
They were married in Hawthorn Vic so she must have moved from Tas. They were still in Vic in 1902 when son Leonard died in an accident.
Val Roy  (son) b1896 Camberwell Vic,married Edith Goodall 1916, had 2 children in Canterbury.Then moved to Riverland SA where they had a son ,1925, daughter Valda (my mother) born 1932. When she was 15 they moved to Adelaide.
Joseph, Adas husband died in Merbein Vic in 1928 (probate notice in Argus)
Not sure when Ada moved to Adelaide but I don't remember my mother mentioning her.
Have sent for her Death transcript as she was only thirty when my GF was born and hopefully it will list any children after him.
Many thanks for filling  in so many blanks, even if I follow her no further, its more than I knew before by far.

[cando]

The South Australian death certificate will not give the names or ages of any children of the marriage, only the number of children living or deceased.

According to her death registration, Ada was born c1860 and with birth registrations in Tasmania to unnamed female GAYLOR's in 1860 and 1863, I guess she could have been born either years.  Did you know about Ada's sister.

Victorian certificates are more informative.  Any children of the marriage are named and their ages at the date of the parent's death as long as this information is known to the informant.

ALLEN Joseph
Father Allen Richard  Mother Unknown
At Merbein  66 years  1928  Reg#2907

It is possible to purchase online and immediately download an image of a certificate - $17.50
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

Births

ALLEN Percy Hobart
Father Joseph  Mother Ada GAYLOR
At Hawthorn  183  Reg#17160

ALLEN Margaret Maria
Father Joseph Mother Ada GAYLOR
At Hawthorn  1885  Reg#10567

ALLEN Leonard Richard Albury
Father Joseph  Mother Ada GAYLOR
At Balwyn  1887  Reg#8498

ALLEN Reginald James
Father Joseph  Mother Ada GAYLOR
At Balwyn  1890  Reg#644

ALLEN Val Roy
Father Joseph  Mother  Ada GAYLOR
At Balwyn  1892  Reg#19747

ALLEN Walter Eric
Father Joseph  Mother Ada GAYLOR
At Camberwell 1896  Reg#17901

Death
ALLEN Leonard Richard Albury
Father Allen Joseph  Mother Ada GAYLOR
15 years at Melbourne East  1902  Reg#14740

Cheers
Cando

[cando]

A bit more

Deaths

CHUGG Margaret Maria
Father Allen Joseph  Mother Ada  GAYLOR
At Frankston  36 years   1921  Reg#5750

ALLEN Percival Hobart
Father Joseph  Mother Ada  GALA
At Parkville  73 years   1957  Reg#4627

Percival Hobart ALLEN was cremated on 24 Apr 1957 at the Fawkner Crematorium and his ashes were scattered.

ALLEN Walter Eric
Father Joseph Mother Ada GAYLOR
At Mildura  76 years 1974  Reg#4259

This death could be Reginald James who was born 1890 - age is about right
ALLEN Reginald
Parents unknown
29 years at Carlton  1919  Reg#11167

Reginald ALLEN aged 31 years [different to death cert] was buried at the Coburg Cemetery on 12 July 1919.  Location - Church of England, Compartment C, Grave#899      

Marriages
ALLEN Margaret Maria
CHUGG Richard Henry
1915  Reg#3149

Births
CHUGG Ellen Margaret
Father Richard Henry Mother Margaret Maria ALLEN
At Mildura  1917  Reg#30895

CHUGG Gladys Ada
Father  Richard Henry  Mother Margaret ALLEN
At Mildura  1916 Reg#5655

Death
CHUGG Gladys Ada
Father Chugg Richard Henry  Mother Margaret Marie ALLEN
4 years at Mildura  1920  Reg#7213

The Mildura Rural City Council are very helpful with burial records and grave locations.

Cheers
Cando

[dracon1a]

It just gets better and better! Thats 2 more uncles I didn't know about. I had been told that there was an Uncle Reg but we weren't sure if it was from one of the other
brothers or sisters
Thank you so much. I have to go and visit Mildura Cemetery. Its only about an hour and half from here. Must still be some rellies up that way.
This site is so good

[cando]

If you were to purchased the death certificates you could possibly find the names of children, ie if the person had married.

The death and burial information on Reginald may not be yours.  His death certificate may give his place of birth.

I'll see what else I can find.

Cheers
Cando

[cando]

There is a digitised WW1 service record for Walter Eric ALLEN and an Application for assistance file on
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx
>Search now as guest user

Cheers
Cando