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Tips for searching Irish BMD civil registrations
« on: Sunday 01 February 09 11:18 GMT (UK) »
The LDS have just added this fantastic resource to their pilot site- Ireland civil registration indexes 1845-1958:
The 'Pilot' website is no longer active - please see reply #52 in this thread for the latest link[/color]

The site lists coverage and it is worth reading carefully but briefly it should cover the following:
Births 1864-1921 for all Ireland
1922-1958 for Republic of Ireland (Northern Ireland births after 1921 will not be listed here)
Deaths 1864-1921 for all Ireland
1922-1958 for Republic of Ireland (Northern Ireland deaths after 1921 will not be listed here)
Marriages 1845-1864 (only non Catholic marriages- this usually includes Registry Office marriages)
1864-1921 all marriages in Ireland
1922-1958 for Republic of Ireland (Northern Ireland marriages will not be listed here)

As some of you that have tried using the site will know, it can be difficult to get the searches to bring up all the results (remember this is a pilot site and there may hopefully be improvements). Therefore, I am starting this thread to list suggestions for using the site to get the best results.
Suggestions only please here. Requests for specific information will be moved to other threads.

The site has been mentioned already on several threads:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,327925.30/topicseen.html
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,356222.0.html
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=355958.new#new

And some hints here already:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355762.30.html

Happy searching, aghadowey

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Re: Tips for searching Irish BMD civil registrations
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 February 09 12:14 GMT (UK) »
From a previous topic I've extracted some hints and information:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355762.30.html

"the search on place seems to be based on the Registration District - e.g. part of Wicklow, and South Co. Dublin is district of Rathdown, this works for me in the place name search.
The registration districts are equivalent to the Poor Law Unions (PLU) which are included in SeanRuad's townland database at www.thecore.com/seanruad
there's a map of these districts here : http://www.rootschat.com/links/05d7/
and a list here : http://www.genfindit.com/irlplu.htm "
-from shanew147

In most databases doing the broadest search with just the name should give the most results and then narrowing down the search criteria with a place should give fewer results but this doesn't seem to be the case here.

Marriages are listed as Residences under Event Types.

"Never choose "New search" always choose "refine search",even if you're changing everything - seems to work for me"
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Re: Tips for searching Irish BMD civil registrations
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 February 09 12:44 GMT (UK) »
The LDS have just added this fantastic resource to their pilot site- Ireland civil registration indexes 1845-1958:
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=2;t=searchable;c=1408347

The site lists coverage and it is worth reading carefully but briefly it should cover the following:
Births 1864-1921 for all Ireland
1922-1958 for Republic of Ireland (Northern Ireland births after 1921 will not be listed here)
Deaths 1864-1921 for all Ireland
1922-1958 for Republic of Ireland (Northern Ireland deaths after 1921 will not be listed here)
Marriages 1845-1864 (only non Catholic marriages- this usually includes Registry Office marriages)
1864-1921 all marriages in Ireland
1922-1958 for Republic of Ireland (Northern Ireland marriages will not be listed here)

Unfortunately it does not appear to be as clear cut as this. I've done a search on the name Watton, and just found two birth entries from Coleraine, Co. Derry in 1937 (i.e. Northern Ireland). I've been in touch with the public relations manager of FS, who has forwarded my request for specific information on the collection as released, and will provide an update if I get one - I've been told it will be at least tomorrow before I get a reply.

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Re: Tips for searching Irish BMD civil registrations
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 February 09 13:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi Aghadowey thanks for this new suggestions topic,
I'm sure we will all benefit from each others experiences.
I also promise not to mention names from my searches to
illustrate a point. :D
some things I have noted whilst searching.
the earliest I've seen maiden name of mother is on a 1928 birth.

on double barrelled names,try one given name and the first surname
in the field for first name and the second surname in the usual field,
this has brought up additional results in my searches.
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Re: Tips for searching Irish BMD civil registrations
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 February 09 14:01 GMT (UK) »
Technical question:

The site uses Flash to display results. I'd like to copy & paste from search results in order to study them & cross-match. However, I can't seem to do this. Is this just a browser setting or does Flash not allow this?

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Re: Tips for searching Irish BMD civil registrations
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 February 09 14:06 GMT (UK) »
when you click into one particular result you
will see "copy to clipboard" by clicking this and
then ok in the box that comes up you can then
 right click and paste into a document on your
computer,even an open blank email that you
 have minimised.very handy.
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Re: Tips for searching Irish BMD civil registrations
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 February 09 18:53 GMT (UK) »
Doh!

Thanks for helping.   And it's a great feature, so credit to the designers as well.

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Re: Tips for searching Irish BMD civil registrations
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 February 09 20:26 GMT (UK) »
I have used this sucessfully to identify my great grandparents marriage details. We had previously come to a complete halt until someone signposted me to this new site.

Not everyone is on the index, however having found my GGfather I then paged through the records and found a matching record for my GGmother who wasn't on the index.

However note that the images seem to be only available on a hit and miss basis. I was lucky the first time, but then they dissappeared. Excellent resource, but lets give them a chance to finish the pilot.
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Re: Tips for searching Irish BMD civil registrations
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 February 09 13:01 GMT (UK) »
If you are seaching for a Mc surname, you have to search under McXXX, Mc XXX (ie. with a space) and M'XXX (with an aprostrophe) to get matches for various dates. Still there is a gap in the 1930s so there may be yet another format there.
McSparran,McSparren,McSparrin,McSparron;all dates, worldwide