LOVEDAY Thomas born stratton,Swindon ( COMPLETE)

[triathlon]

Can any one help please.  trying desperately to trace the death of Thomas Loveday born 1867 and died BEFORE 1914.  The marriage certs of two of his children state deceased by 1914.
Thomas married and Elizabeth Davies from Neath in Cardiff in 1890. The father of Thomas is shown as JOHN Loveday on his marriage cert. they had 5 children and all are shown on the 1901 census.  Therfore death of thomas is between 1901 - 1914 .
I can only find 2 deaths from tracing all records, one in 1912 ( Neath) and one in 1913 Swindon for a Thomas W Loveday.  I thought that the death was the 1912 one but it proves not as the informant was a brother in law HANCOCK which is another Loveday family.  Any info regarding Thomas, his death or any relatives would be much appreciated. Thank you.

[Mort29]

have you found any of them in the 1911 census to perhaps narrow down the dates?

Is it the Wife Elizabeth who dies in Cardiff, 1907?

[triathlon]

Yes, looked on 1911 census and I cant find Thomas Loveday but interestingly in the 1911 Wales census I have found 2 of his children Thomas Francis and Rosa living with his married brother in Laws family Francis J Davies ( 1866-   ) in Metha Tydfil ?? 

Yes it is Elizabeth Davies his wife that died in 1907.

I cannot undersatnd why I cannot find his death cert or him registered anywhere on the 1911 census.  Any ideas please.

[osprey]

also see

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,459307.0/topicseen.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,461526.new.html#new

[triathlon]

Have received some info that Thomas francis Loveday 1892 - 1960 was posiibly a Barnados boy!  This is given creedance as his mother was dead in 1907, and beween 1901 -1905 had a further 5 children with Lawrence GALVIN; and their father Thomas Loveday 1867_ is shown as dead on 2 marriage certs.  I cannot find any trace of the death.

Is it possible does anyone know to get records of Barnados children ??

[osprey]

think it is, but you may need to be a direct descendant. There's a link in this thread in the post by Jorose

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,237217.0.html

[triathlon]

Thank you, will pay my £15 and send off enquiry.

[triathlon]

Just an update re: the 1911 census.
Although children Thomas and Rosa are living with Elizabeths ( died 1907)  brother Francis Davies in Wales; and child Elizabeth is possibly shown as a servant in Barking Essex, there is NO TRACE of Eliza Jane and bertha anywhere - maybe they were in Barnados in 1911 ??