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Re: a past relative in cradely heath area?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 26 May 05 14:27 BST (UK) »
 its me again!
hey! I just noticed William J Fellowes !! I have an old postcard, not dated, no stamp and no indication of it's age ( late 1800's early 1900's, perhaps) sent with an address written in pencil, from British Columbia, showing a photo of him and his two little girls in a field. Now.. how to begin to trace him i wonder...?

and the Amy Rose Charles in the 1901 census, is definately my grandma, as she told me she was a telephone operator, and  the telephone exchange was in her front room!! and she would be Charles at that point having married John Frank Charles in 1900. I suppose he isn't mentioned then because he was in the merchant navy and may have been away.

I was also told that the Jeavons Fellowes sold their land off to industry?
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Sushi
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Re: a past relative in cradely heath area?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 26 May 05 17:31 BST (UK) »
Hi again
I forgot to post this link last night.   
http://uk-transcriptions.accessgenealogy.com/Worcs..htm
There are several burials for Jeavons Fellows in there, at Cradley Heath and Netherton. Good luck sorting them out ;D

And the 1901 census extracts will interest you. There is a David J Fellows who looks to be Emma's older brother.
Rose (Black Country),Downs (Black Country),Wolloxall (any and all),Bark (Derbyshire),Wright (Derbyshire),Marsden (Derbyshire), Wallace (Black Country)

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Re: a past relative in cradely heath area?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 27 May 05 15:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the latest link, Gardener, it was very interesting. but so many young deaths !!
Yes, I see David, who was Emma's brother.
He shares a grave with William J (the other person I was searching for, who I thought went to Canada) who died aged 32, and an older sister also, Keziah, who died in 1927.
I am now going to try searching for John Jeavons Fellowes and his wife Rosannah.
thanks again,
Sushi
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Re: a past relative in cradely heath area?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 27 May 05 15:36 BST (UK) »
Here I go again.  A possible marriage


 BRAGGER, William 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
 DAVIES, Sarah 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
 Fellows, John 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
 Price, Susannah 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
 Trowmans, Rosanna 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire

Quarter ending September 1839
Dudley
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If you can get them on 1851 there may be an earlier child if this is them.
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
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Re: a past relative in cradely heath area?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 27 May 05 17:04 BST (UK) »
1872        18 Aug   John Jeavons Fellows         Cradley Heath                       59 Years                 Died 14th Aug

Hi again
I think this may be John even though his age is a bit off: the 61 census has him born 1816 but this is 1813. Not much in it though and it is the right name and place. And it agrees with his age in 1871 :)

1871 has them at 61 Dudley wood,Netherton
Rg10-3017/138
John Jevon Fellows,57,carter,Dudley Wood,Worcs
Rosannah 52,Dudley Wood
William,17,carpenter,Dudley Wood

1881
Rg11-2862/87
59 Reddall Hill Rd,Rowley Regis
Rosanna Jeavons,head,W,62,late farmers wife,Worcs,Dudley

Rg12-2282/97
59 Reddall hill Rd,Rowley Regis
Rosehanna Fellows,head,widow,73,-,Dudley,Worcs

Rosannah Jeavons Fellows, death aged 85
Dec qtr,19013,Dudley,6c,10

She doesn't seem to be on the transcript for Cradley heath burials but I would expect her to have been buried there so you may need to check that out better.
Rose (Black Country),Downs (Black Country),Wolloxall (any and all),Bark (Derbyshire),Wright (Derbyshire),Marsden (Derbyshire), Wallace (Black Country)

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Re: a past relative in cradely heath area?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 27 May 05 17:26 BST (UK) »
Here I go again.  A possible marriage


 BRAGGER, William 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
 DAVIES, Sarah 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
 Fellows, John 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
 Price, Susannah 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire
 Trowmans, Rosanna 1839 September Marriages Dudley Staffordshire Worcestershire

Quarter ending September 1839
Dudley
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If you can get them on 1851 there may be an earlier child if this is them.

I think you are right with this Tricia, spot on :)

John Jeavons or Fellows and Rosannah Trowmans marriage 16 Sep 1839, St Thomas,Dudley

1851 census
Bowling Green,Dudley 2033/552
John Jeavons,36,colliery labourer,bowling green,worcs
Rosannah,wife,32,New Town,Worcs
Benjamin,son,11,chain maker,New Town,Worcs
Keziah,dau,nurse,New Town,Worcs
Elizabeth,dau5,scholar,Bowling Green,Worcs
Davis,son,2,Bowling Green,Worcs
Emma Jane,dau,8 m,Bowling Green,Worcs

So! John had two names and several jobs by the look of it. Benjamin is bpt as Jeavons at Dudley St Thomas on the IGI

Born 27 Feb 1840, bpt 26 Jul 1841 St Thomas,Dudley, parents John Jeavons and Rosannah.

1861
Rg9-2061/35
Netherton Hill
Benjamin J Fellows,head,21,carter,Netherton,Worcs
Drucilla Fellows,20,Netherton,Worcs

Just so you know, one of my families was at Netherton Hill in '61 :) Makes us almost neighbours :-*
Rose (Black Country),Downs (Black Country),Wolloxall (any and all),Bark (Derbyshire),Wright (Derbyshire),Marsden (Derbyshire), Wallace (Black Country)

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Re: a past relative in cradely heath area?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 27 May 05 18:50 BST (UK) »
hey! Gardener and Tricia Q!!
The latest info is amazing, how can I thank you?
Do you think the Trowmans has anything to do with Russia? I was told we had ancestors from that region.
or maybe it's on the Harris side of the family?
are there records existing from before the 1800's to find out the jeavons' John and Rossanahs birth details?
I cant take too much in at once so I'm having a break to digest what you told me, and then watch Coronation St ( and you thought you were sad, Tricia!)
Back soon!!
Sushi
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Jeavons Fellows/Tromans/Harris/ Cradley

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Re: a past relative in cradely heath area?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 28 May 05 00:04 BST (UK) »
If you search on www.familysearch.com then you should find a birth for Rosannah at Cradley for parents Benjamin and Ann.
The 1851 has a family at New Town,Dudley which look to fit very well

Benjamin Trowman,63,day labourer,Rowley,Worcs
Ann Trowman,63,Mushroom,Worcs
Ruth Trowman,dau,unm,26,straw bonnet maker,New Town,Worcs

Next door but one, and two, and three (!) are more Trowman families, possibly related. Two of them are Jew's harp makers, and all from Rowley. There is a good site called http://www.rowleyregis.com/

You can go to "Forums" and search for "harp" which brings up some links

If you read either Family history/Tromans or better still Jews Harps there are some posts by Bob who is descended from Jew Harp-making Tromans (spelling varies a lot). I think he would be happy to hear from you and might be able to point you to more information.

I just looked at the surname interest registry for that site and there is someone else interested in Jeavons Fellows and another in Jeavons Fellows AND Tromans ;D ;D
They can't both be you so that is at least one person, maybe two who are probably related to you!!!! If you join the Rowley site you can either post a general message or send a PM to them.Please let us know how this turns out, I am so excited for you ;)
Rose (Black Country),Downs (Black Country),Wolloxall (any and all),Bark (Derbyshire),Wright (Derbyshire),Marsden (Derbyshire), Wallace (Black Country)

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Re: a past relative in cradely heath area?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 28 May 05 00:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Sushi,
Don't know if you have seen this but the blackcountry bugle had jews harp making clans not to long ago and there was a trowman's family
http://www.blackcountrybugle.co.uk/
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