WORTHY / READ / SPARKS / DOWLAND

[Londongirl]

Thank you - I wasn't going to ask anything that personal; I think the word these days is 'sensitive'. I've been doing the family history for years but only found this site a short time ago. Can you see any links between your Hardings and mine? I also have South Stoneham in my tree - small world. If only I'd known all this when I lived in Winchester..... have you any idea how to search for pub records? My Hardings apparently owned one in So'ton, have been told it was lost during Blitz but no one can remember the name. The 'sensitive' subject I wanted to mention was the eldest son of my gt.grandmother Caroline and her husband Charles Thomas. A cousin and I discovered him (as you do) on the Census, living with his Read grandparents; the oldest members of the family have been very cagey, suggesting that they'd never heard of him, then that there had been 'rumours he existed', now they maintain silence! Anu suggestions where to go next? 

[Londongirl]

I forgot to say that when James Read left the New Forest, it was to work for the railways, which he did for the rest of his life. His 'mystery' grandson, Charles, was working at a Mineral Drinks Manufactory in 1901. No idea what it was called. If there is anyone out there who can make a link with my Thomases, apart from the one who became my gt.grandfather, the others entirely disappear. He had a lot of siblings (all girls), they must have gone somewhere! Thank you again bearkat, you've made my day!

londongirl

[bearkat]

Hi Londongirl,
You should be able to find the pub.  Try looking in a trade directory or Kelly's.  If you don't get any joy there you should try Southampton City Archives who have a list of pub licences issued.  My great grandparents ran a couple of pubs in Southampton. Found a lovely photo at the Southampton archives.
bearkat

[Londongirl]

Were they your Harding ancestors? My Mum's family had pubs coming out of their ears - sadly, none got passed down this way

[bearkat]

No, my HAMERTONS ran The Angel in Palmerston Road and the New Forest Stag in Amoy Street.  I think  they also ran another pub in Northam.
bearkat

[Londongirl]

Please stay in touch, we're probably related somewhere along the line. I've just had some bad news and I think I've been given the job of relaying it round the family. This is one of the reasons I started the family tree, before it was too late to ask advice from older family members. Thank you again.

londongirl

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[Londongirl]

Thanks for your message. I did check my profile, and my email address was on there? I'm afraid my brain's not working properly at the moment - the last message you sent, there was no click to reply button - never mind, I expect I'm doing something cack-handed, as we say in East London. We've wondered about this son being illegitimate, but it had never bothered the family before! We wondered whether a) he was handicapped in some way (wouldn't necessarily have been put on Census), or b) maybe his Mum had a vision of 10 kids before she was 30, and couldn't cope.  That would have made me run away. My Stephen Reade, born 1787 - I'm suspecting he made a prior marriage (or not, as the case may be), as his son Stephen was born in 1813 when he was 26 - and some years before he married. I've got numerous ancestors who had several kids before they married, or just had the kids and didn't bother marrying at all - my Mum said it had to do with them being 'rural'!! The bad news I got was a bit worse than a death itself - we've been told to wait for one. I get all the nicest family jobs. Doing this is keeping my mind off it, thank you very much. I shall try and get back on here again tomorrow, so if you think of anything, just hit send.  londongirl

[DKing]

I am writing the history of a family who owned a contry house outside Brockenhurst in the new forest called Rhinefield House, the 1901 census shows Charles Worthy as Groom and domestic, he was 19 and born in Basingstoke, any use?? I also have  a photo somewhere of him (I thinks its him) standing by a horse and the owners son aged about 2 sitting on it and I asume as he was the groom that he would be holding the horse, if any interest I will try an ddid it out. there are other (Worthy's) in the area so I will did around,
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Dave King

[bonn1e]

hi Graham I think we have met before at Grans for tea yes I may be your cousin.Betty is a name that runs in my family also my auntie Vi.The Worthys of Brockenhurst/Boldre/Milford on sea and Southamton are all related to me (and you ?) I believe that I have the family tree dating back to 1798.Do you remember auntie Nell from Exton road bournemouth?
 Sparks was grans name before she became Wing then worthy she married pop my granddad William Edward Worthy who died in 1958 in Christchurch.I hope this info rings some bells for you as I have a lot more details of my past family which you may like to share.bonn1e